Timeline for The wicked redemption: chiddush of the Rabbeinu Gershom
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| Oct 18, 2023 at 14:24 | history | edited | Shmuel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 17, 2023 at 15:24 | history | edited | Shmuel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 17, 2023 at 15:06 | comment | added | The GRAPKE | The Satan misleads people because he is allowed to give them respite and salvation (of a sort) after following his advice after which they go to gehinnom as punishment for allowing themselves to be misled by the Satan. | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 14:04 | comment | added | Shmuel | Because the Gemara interprets it as " sometimes even the Satan is victorious, by convincing people to act in a manner that is clearly incorrect.". To me, it would seem that the Satan misleads people in thinking that there is redemption, to this, the R' Gershom says that the Satan leads the wicked astray and gives them a redemption. According to this, to me, it does not sound as saying that their punishment is delayed. | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 13:29 | comment | added | שלום | @Shmuel, I don’t see how it doesn’t fit in - can you please elaborate? | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 13:25 | comment | added | Shmuel | That I understand. However, that does not fit in with the statement of the Rabbeinu Gershom that "the Satan leads the wicked astray and gives them a redemption". | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 13:17 | comment | added | שלום | It seems like it just means he gives them a break by delaying their punishment and allowing them to remain “free” in this world… | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 13:15 | comment | added | Shmuel | Yes, I saw that, but the question was what this "redemption" means? | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 12:49 | comment | added | Shmuel | @שלום I don't see the connection. | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 11:17 | comment | added | Rabbi Kaii | A guess: Gehinom is their redemtion e.g. Derech Hashem 2:4 - sefaria.org/…. This follows well with Yishayahu that the redemption of the nations will come about through their inflicting the Jews with suffering, and eventually waking up to the horror of what they did r'l | |
| Oct 17, 2023 at 10:44 | history | asked | Shmuel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |