Timeline for What time period do the concepts from Zohar date back to? Is it actually 2nd Temple Period?
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| Sep 29 at 5:56 | comment | added | Harel13 | BTW, it's in the English section, in the second half of the book (which has a separate table of contents in what would be considered the end if you start from the Hebrew side). | |
| Sep 29 at 3:23 | comment | added | Harel13 | Yaacov, I thought it would interest you (if you weren't aware already) that Joshua Finkel wrote an article in the Leo Jung Jubilee Volume refuting Werblowsky's first JJS article (noting that he was aware that the latter intended to publish another article in the future). The book can be accessed via Otzar Hachochmah (ספר היובל לכבוד הרב דר. אליהו יונג). | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 18:08 | comment | added | Deuteronomy | @setszu I'm not sure how much further this specific niche topic (possible parallels between Philo and the Midrash ha-Ne'elam) has developed if it all. By "old" I assume you mean outdated, if you are aware of any further development on this topic that comprehensively deals with either of the two (Belkin/Werblowsky), this would be an appropriate place to comment on it. | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 17:50 | comment | added | setszu | @Deuteronomy I just realized that these books come from 1958 and 1959 respectively. Aren't they a bit old for academic discussions given how quickly things change? | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 13:57 | comment | added | Deuteronomy | It is also worth noting that R. J. Z. Werblowsky wrote a refutation of R. Belkin's thesis, available to subscribers of the Journal of Jewish Studies: Philo and the Zohar: A Note on the Methods of the Scienza Nuova in Jewish Studies, Part I and Part II | |
| Jun 2, 2023 at 13:56 | comment | added | Deuteronomy | "Rabbi Akiva, who taught the Rashbi, was transmitting, at least partially, the teachings of Philo" How does that follow? Assuming there is an identification in ideas, this could be due to either 1) a medieval author who read Philo/Greek literature (Peshitta from Syriac bible of Wisdom of Solomon) replicating those ideas, 2) Rashbi having a parallel tradition to Philo that was in circulation at that time. Unless I am missing something in the presentation (which well may be), it does not logically follow that it must have been a direct inheritance from/through Philo. | |
| May 21, 2023 at 23:38 | comment | added | Yaacov Deane | @Harel13 I reached out to him during Covid unsuccessfully. I’ve been trying to reach out to some associates of mine who are alumni to make the connection. This task appeared on my path through Divine Providence. G-d willing, I will be blessed with success in keeping the Torah of Rabbi Belkin alive. | |
| May 21, 2023 at 20:40 | comment | added | Harel13 | Hi, you're welcome. I'm not a YU almnus. I studied at a hesder yeshiva here in Israel and I'm currently studying archeology and Jewish history at Bar Ilan. I've seen you refer to the Belkin manuscripts before on MY. It would be exciting to assist with it, but I assume you were hoping for someone to make contact with Rabbi Hurvitz. | |
| May 21, 2023 at 20:36 | history | edited | Harel13 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added citation and link.
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| May 21, 2023 at 12:27 | comment | added | Yaacov Deane | @Harel13 Thank you so much for tracking down this link to Rabbi Belkin’s article. It should be included in the answer I posted. Would you please be so kind as to add your valuable contribution. I’m assuming you are an alumnus of YU. There is an unpublished, but complete manuscript by Rabbi Belkin that is the remaining 4 volumes of his life’s work, מדרשי פילון. Rabbi Elazar Hurvitz still has it. I would love to arrange for its publication. If you can help me to make that happen, I would be in your debt. | |
| May 21, 2023 at 5:29 | vote | accept | setszu | ||
| May 21, 2023 at 5:24 | history | answered | Yaacov Deane | CC BY-SA 4.0 |