Timeline for Do the Arabs count to the moon, too?
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| S Apr 2, 2023 at 10:06 | history | suggested | Avraham | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 2, 2023 at 6:22 | comment | added | Avraham | @Harel13 are those mentioned in Tannaitic sources though? I've already agreed that the Amoraim were familiar with Arabs, though who knows how much they knew about their calendar. (Arabs are also mentioned in the Bible itself, e.g., 2 Chron 17:11, Isaiah 21:13, and l'havdil, Christian sources. My point isn't that the Rabbis never heard or Arabs, my point is that in the times of the Tannaim when they said "the goyim" the Arabs probably weren't the first ones they had in mind. | |
| Apr 1, 2023 at 19:02 | comment | added | Harel13 | @Avraham Arabs are also mentioned in Chazalic sources under the names טייעא, נותי, סדקי/סרקי, as well as naming specific Arab kingdoms or lands, such as תדמור/תרמוד (Palmyra), מישן (Meshan), חדייב (Adiabene), תימן (Yemen), and more. | |
| Apr 1, 2023 at 17:19 | comment | added | Avraham | @NaftaliTzvi you're right Arabs are mentioned in the Talmud. From the Wikipedia article I linked below it seems we don't really know what calendar they used, but probably at least some were lunar or lunisolar. Note, however, that the relevant passage in the Gemara is a Baraita. There are far fewer Tanaitic references to Arabs (the only one I'm aware of is Ohalot 18:10). Somewhat relatedly, there are also fewer references to Arabs in the Talmud Yerushalmi than the Bavli. | |
| Mar 31, 2023 at 17:02 | comment | added | Naftali Tzvi | The Arabs where certainly discussed in the Talmud, and it seems they probably followed a lunar calendar even before Islam | |
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| Mar 31, 2023 at 13:18 | answer | added | Avraham | timeline score: 4 | |
| Mar 31, 2023 at 11:49 | comment | added | AKA | The Romans had a roughly lunisolar calendar until Julius Caesar, and was probably lunar going further back en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar#Republican_calendar, so the gemara probably was just referring to the nations they had direct contact with (Greeks/Romans) | |
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| Mar 31, 2023 at 11:16 | history | edited | Harel13 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 31, 2023 at 7:09 | comment | added | Harel13 | The Muslim point is less relevant because Muslims weren't around when the Talmud was composed. | |
| Mar 31, 2023 at 7:08 | history | edited | Harel13 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 31, 2023 at 5:55 | history | edited | Naftali Tzvi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S Mar 31, 2023 at 5:47 | history | suggested | Kovy Jacob | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fixed up grammar, and the wording - he said we use the sun but we use the moon, and vice versa.
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| Mar 31, 2023 at 5:17 | history | asked | Naftali Tzvi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |