Timeline for Could Solomon be a married father at the age of 11?
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| Nov 4, 2022 at 15:18 | answer | added | user19234 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 4, 2022 at 14:20 | history | edited | user19234 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 4, 2022 at 12:40 | comment | added | Chatzkel | @MosheWise yes. That was a typo | |
| Nov 4, 2022 at 12:32 | comment | added | user19234 | @Chatzkel Does get matured mean 'get married'? | |
| Oct 9, 2022 at 3:24 | comment | added | Chatzkel | Kesubos 90A the Mishna states clearly that a kattan can get matured through his father. Tosfos Sanhedrin 76B, Yevamos 62B, and 96B explains what exactly the parameters are, but there is marriage (at least nissuin) for a kattan | |
| Jun 6, 2022 at 15:10 | comment | added | ezra | perhaps the halachos are different for a king? | |
| Jun 3, 2022 at 0:28 | answer | added | YSA | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 10, 2022 at 14:11 | comment | added | David Kenner | @MosheWise yes that is what I meant. TY | |
| Mar 8, 2022 at 12:50 | comment | added | user19234 | @DavidKenner when you say "the entire concept of Kiddushin was Drabbanan" I assume you mean this only for underage boys & your point is that by Torah law they cannot marry but by rabbinic law they can. | |
| Mar 7, 2022 at 11:24 | comment | added | David Kenner | See Gemara Sanhedrin 69B. In the times of King Solomon, men were able to father children at 8-9 years of age and women could give birth even younger. Many famous people spoken of in that Gemara had children at that young age. It may be that the entire concept of Kiddushin was Drabbanan, or a special D'oraisa where the father gives the kesef kiddushin on behalf of his minor son. (Kiddushin 19a is a source from where the possibilities are talked about, although the Gemara there seems to say a minor boy cannot effect marriage.) | |
| Mar 3, 2022 at 19:33 | comment | added | AKA | The Shu"T (Noda BiYehuda somewhere) discuss the common 18th c. Jewish practice of minor boys marrying minor girls, and whether a) this was permissible (Tos' Yevamos), and b) whether it had any legal force. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 17:28 | comment | added | Nic | Was Solomon required to do the mitzvah of giving a bris to Rehoboam if he wasn't bar-matzvah yet? | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 6:31 | comment | added | Alex | @DoubleAA But if the chronology is in order there was at least another three years (ויהי מקץ שלש שנים) before he got his wisdom. | |
| Mar 2, 2022 at 3:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/1498855636142022659 | ||
| Mar 1, 2022 at 18:46 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @Moshe years don't always have to be full years. If he was king for 40.9 and rechavam was 40.1 years old and it was a short pregnancy, etc. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 18:36 | history | edited | user19234 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 1, 2022 at 18:34 | comment | added | user19234 | @ClintEastwood The gift of wisdom came after his accession to the throne and Rehoboam was already one year old when Solomon became king | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 15:16 | comment | added | Clint Eastwood | Maybe the special gift of wisdom conferred upon him gadol status. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 13:09 | comment | added | pcoz | @DoubleAA Maybe a king who is a katan can effect kiddushin based on the principle that assur le'hishtamesh besharvito shel melech, so she is mimelah nisyachedes to him, which is the purpose of kiddushin. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 12:54 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | Could a 12 year old king take a concubine? | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 12:53 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | It would be odd and I'm not saying that's true, only noting that it is possible to have a wife before bar mitzva, unlike the suggestion in the question. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 12:51 | comment | added | user19234 | In other words, Seder Olam may be saying that Naamah was Solomon's wife through levirate marriage. It is odd that no-one mentioned this if this was the case. | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 12:42 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | A minor male can have a wife through yibbum | |
| Mar 1, 2022 at 12:38 | history | asked | user19234 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |