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MyZmanim says:

According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin.… Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances as far as I can tell.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil, and the other distance-time conversions are derived from that one. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin.… Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances as far as I can tell.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin.… Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances as far as I can tell.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil, and the other distance-time conversions are derived from that one. Either way, the question remains.

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MyZmanim says:

The Gemara in Psachim (.צד) states that the time span between Alos HaShachar (Dawn) and Hanetz HaChama (Sunrise) is as long as the amount of time it takes an average person to walk a distance of 4 "milin" (plural of "mil"). According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. As a result, they hold that Alos Hashachar occurs 72 minutes before sunrise. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances as far as I can tell.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

The Gemara in Psachim (.צד) states that the time span between Alos HaShachar (Dawn) and Hanetz HaChama (Sunrise) is as long as the amount of time it takes an average person to walk a distance of 4 "milin" (plural of "mil"). According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. As a result, they hold that Alos Hashachar occurs 72 minutes before sunrise. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances as far as I can tell.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

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MyZmanim says:

The Gemara in Psachim (.צד) states that the time span between Alos HaShachar (Dawn) and Hanetz HaChama (Sunrise) is as long as the amount of time it takes an average person to walk a distance of 4 "milin" (plural of "mil"). According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. As a result, they hold that Alos Hashachar occurs 72 minutes before sunrise. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I can'tdon't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I can walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

The Gemara in Psachim (.צד) states that the time span between Alos HaShachar (Dawn) and Hanetz HaChama (Sunrise) is as long as the amount of time it takes an average person to walk a distance of 4 "milin" (plural of "mil"). According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. As a result, they hold that Alos Hashachar occurs 72 minutes before sunrise. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I can't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I can walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

MyZmanim says:

The Gemara in Psachim (.צד) states that the time span between Alos HaShachar (Dawn) and Hanetz HaChama (Sunrise) is as long as the amount of time it takes an average person to walk a distance of 4 "milin" (plural of "mil"). According to most Poskim, it takes 18 minutes for an average person to walk a distance of one mil, and therefore 72 minutes to walk 4 milin. As a result, they hold that Alos Hashachar occurs 72 minutes before sunrise. Others say it takes 22.5 minutes to walk a mil, and therefore 90 minutes to walk 4 milin.

(Emphasis in the original.)

If it takes me 18 minutes to walk a distance, it's going to take me more than 72 minutes to walk four times that distance. People walk far distances more slowly than short distances.

More extremely, I see the same proportion applied to four amos, which is even more unrealistic. Surely if it takes me 18 minutes to walk a mil (2000 amos), it doesn't take me 18 ÷ 500 minutes to walk four amos! I don't walk a mil at anywhere near the speed I walk four amos at!

Have any pos'kim dealt with the idea that those numbers don't match up?


Edit: Double AA pointed out in a comment that I'm asking this backward: the original source says it takes twelve hours to walk forty mil. Either way, the question remains.

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