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Aug 4 '19 at 18:28 comment added Alaychem goes to Codidact @hazoriz I feel VERY COMFORTABLE with ignoring Sifsai Chachomim. I advise you to ignore him as well. Usually he either doesn't understand Rashi, or he adds nothing. Here is a prime example.
Aug 4 '19 at 17:48 comment added hazoriz on the other hand sefaria.org/Rabbeinu_Bahya%2C_Bereshit.29.21
Aug 4 '19 at 17:46 comment added hazoriz the Sifsai Chachomim does not see Rashi's question as we do sefaria.org/Siftei_Chakhamim%2C_Genesis.29.21
Jul 31 '19 at 18:41 comment added hazoriz @Alaychem I think I got you (similar to DoubleAA comment on that question), but it seems Rashi's point was that even in those days people did not speak like that (to their father in law) (there is even a prohibition to sleep with your wife in your father-in-law's house(/room))
Jul 31 '19 at 18:27 comment added Alaychem goes to Codidact @hazoriz That is way out of discussion... All the Mefarshim have presumption - That It can't be that Yaakov didn't follow the Gemara/Shulchan Arcuh, and now they have a question, so they answer it, in clever ways, but with no real proofs.Without this presumption - no question will raise. Just accept the fact that Yaakov is a very different man from R' Haim Kanyevski. How do I know I'm right? Bereshit p29 21 and Rashi there. No one talks like that nowadays. No one. Even after Rashi answer. It's different people, different time, and no Shulcan Aruch is around. Not even Matan Tora.
Jul 31 '19 at 18:12 comment added hazoriz @Alaychem I am interested to know it
Jul 31 '19 at 18:06 comment added Alaychem goes to Codidact @hazoriz Yes, I have.
Jul 31 '19 at 14:01 comment added hazoriz your BTW is going against Ibn Ezra, Ramban, and Rabinu B'chaya. do you have an answer for this?judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/22432/yaakov-kissing-rachel
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Jul 31 '19 at 13:47 comment added Alaychem goes to Codidact @DanF it has nothing to do with Yaakov and Rachel, I'll edit my post to make it more clear.
Jul 31 '19 at 13:40 comment added DanF If I recall the Midrash correctly, when Esav met Ya'akov, he must have kissed him on the mouth, as it seems that he was searching for hidden diamonds. I also think that Rash"i mentions the same idea when Lavan met Ya'akov and kissed Ya'akov, for the same reason.
Jul 31 '19 at 13:38 comment added DanF The Mishnah source says "head". How does that become proof that Ya'akov kissed Rachel on the mouth and it was romantic?
Jul 31 '19 at 13:12 comment added Alaychem goes to Codidact @AlBerko I've added Mishna source.
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Jul 31 '19 at 13:02 comment added Yaacov Deane @AlBerko Your comment isn't so simple. For example, are you suggesting that the Shulchan Aruch is over-ruling the Written Torah? The Beit Yosef wouldn't make such a claim. Rather, we rely upon the Sages to teach us (most of the time) how to properly understand the text of the Written Torah.
Jul 31 '19 at 12:51 comment added Al Berko A very good example, but we never learn Halacha from scriptures. You can't bring mikra over Shu"A. That's why I asked the OP to remove the quotes.
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Jul 31 '19 at 12:39 history answered Alaychem goes to Codidact CC BY-SA 4.0