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Apr 29, 2019 at 19:39 comment added Al Berko @Loani There are always 12 tribes, if Levi's not counted Yossef is counted twice - Efraim and Menashe.
Apr 29, 2019 at 19:34 comment added Lo ani Or even the other way around: 11 refers to the sh’vatim minus shevet leivi, who is often excluded, and 12 refers to the 12 sons of ya’acov
Apr 29, 2019 at 19:31 comment added Lo ani Just a thought, 11 may refer to the actual people (minus Yosef who was in mitzrayim) while 12 refers to the sh’vatim that came from them (the ones known nowadays as shevet Yehuda, for example)
Apr 28, 2019 at 21:14 answer added Avery timeline score: 2
Apr 28, 2019 at 11:51 comment added DonielF I’d think that answer does this justice. According to Rav Pinkus, eleven represents Sitra Achra, epitomized in the brothers’ attempt to destroy Yosef after his dreams; this is distinct from twelve, which is the brothers themselves (and whatever that epitomizes according to Rav Pinkus; he seems to have a different philosophy behind many of the numbers than the Maharal, so I’m not sure that he agrees that twelve represents Hashem’s presence in the natural order).
Apr 28, 2019 at 11:47 answer added DonielF timeline score: 2
Apr 28, 2019 at 1:51 answer added sabbahillel timeline score: 3
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