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Feb
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comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
@Gershon, the wording of the linked question does not mention Kaddish Yatom, but two of the three answerers seem to take for granted that is the context, as they refer to "those reciting kaddish", which doesn't make sense in the context of kaddish shaleim and chatzi kaddish. Also, my question is mainly about the historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag, which is not addressed in the other question at all.
Feb
8
comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
@Gershon, did you even read the second paragraph of the question?
Feb
8
comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
@Seth, can't remember. What's the minhag there?
Feb
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comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
Seth, this doesn't have the feel of a strict/lax distinction, nor of a knowledgeable/ignorant distinction. After all (as has been pointed out) there are variations even within Sephardic Orthodox congregations on this point. Regarding Prayer for the State of Israel, at my (Modern Orthodox) congregation everybody rises for that, as well as the prayers for the United States and the Israeli Defense Forces. When I lived in England, the norm in all Orthodox congregations was to rise for the prayer for the Royal Family. Are there places where one does not rise for such prayers?
Feb
8
comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
DoubleAA, in the linked question the first answer (middle ranked) refers to "those reciting it", as does one of the comments on that answer, which only makes sense if we are assuming the context is Kaddish Yatom.
Feb
8
comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
Monica, interesting! I wonder if this is a regional thing.
Feb
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comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
Also possibly worth mentioning in this context is that Chabad follows Nusach HaAri, but (at least in my experience) the minhag in Chabad is to rise for every kaddish.
Feb
8
comment Sitting or Standing for Kaddish - historical divergence between Conservative and Orthodox minhag
Actually I attended a Sephardic Orthodox congregation nearly exclusively from 1998-2002 and my recollection (which could be wrong) is that they rose for every kaddish. But I've edited the question to specify "Ashkenazic Orthodox" to avoid complicating the question. Since Conservative Judaism emerged out of an Ashkenazic context it would be odd if they adopted a Sephardic minhag, no? If this really does originate in an Ashkenazic/Sephardic difference then the "when" and "why" questions seem to be even more salient.
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Edited to add the qualifier "Ashkenazic" to make the question more precise.
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