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The gemara does not say that every stringency leads to a leniency, but sometimes it does, and thus the gemara may challenge that a certain stringency is a חומרא דאתי לידי קולא - a stringency which leads to a leniency, for example in Pesachim 48b, Yevamos 30b, Bava Kama 11a and Niddah 24b.
To restate the crucial part of your question: Is there any truth to this exchange ever happening? In other words, you are searching for a historical basis for this event in the past? You can look up the exchange in context, in Avodah Zara 2a-b. The quote begins: R. Hanina b. Papa — some say R. Simlai — expounded [the foregoing verse] thus: In ...
The closest thing I could find is this, on 16a: ואמר רב תחלת הוראה דהאי צורבא מרבנן לקלקולא אי אמרת בשלמא לקולא קאמר היינו קלקולא אלא אי אמרת לחומרא מאי קלקולא איכא כיון דמקלקלי בה רבים היינו קלקולא (in the context of a chumra) Rav Tachlis says: This young rabbi's ruling is problematic. The gemara asks "if it were unnecessarily lenient I would ...
The explanation of the gemara is that Shammai’s opinion, which was initially disputed by Hillel, is that there is a decree that the juice which drips from the grapes at the time of harvesting makes the grapes susceptible to impurity, even though the person does not desire the juice to drip out of the grapes since it goes to waste. Consequently, the ...
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