9th of Av; anniversary of the destruction of both Temples in Jerusalem; a general day of mourning for historical Jewish tragedies.

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Will Tisha B'Av be pushed off in the future?

We have a tradition that Tisha B'Av will become a holiday in the time of Moshiach. Will that holiday also be nidcheh if it comes out on Shabbos?
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What potential issues may arise with serving jury duty on Tisha b'Av?

I was recently summoned for jury duty and initially selected to be on the jury for a criminal trial that was expected to go through Tisha b'Av. If I were selected, what issues would I face in serving ...
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Different tune for chapter 3 of Eicha?

Why does the third perek of Eicha have a different melody? Is it just to match the triplet form of the words?
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Is the material permitted to learn on Tisha B'av available online?

From Aish.com: Other prohibitions include...Learning Torah, since this is a joyful activity. It is permitted to learn texts relevant to Tisha B'Av and mourning -- e.g. the Book of Lamentations, ...
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Mundane activities on Tisha B'Av

Tisha B'Av should be spent focusing on the destruction of Jerusalem and Beit haMikdash; but is it permissible to do daily chores as well? For example, this year, Tisha B'Av is postponed one day ...
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Do we say “shabbat shalom” on Tisha b'Av that falls on Shabbat?

Yesterday I said "shabbat shalom" to someone and he said we don't do that on Tisha b'Av that falls on Shabbat. I thought that Shabbat trumps the day (and that's why we move the other observances). ...
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Havdalah if you have to eat or drink on Tisha B'Av that comes out on Sunday

If a person for whatever reason has to eat and drink on Tisha B'Av that comes out on Sunday, and they know this ahead of time, when should they make havdallah on a cos? Should they make Motzei Shabbos ...
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Why did the 40th-year Jews think they'd erred about Av? Sanhedrin had declared it

Rashi says that ובשנת ארבעים שנה עשו ולמחר עמדו כולן חיים וכיון שראו כך תמהו ואמרו שמא טעינו בחשבון החדש חזרו ושכבו בקבריהן בלילות עד ליל חמשה עשר וכיון שראו שנתמלאה הלבנה בט"ו ולא מת אחד מהם ...
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What are you supposed to do on Tisha baAv?

On Tisha baAv you can't eat wash oneself anoint oneself marital relation wearing leather shoes sit on a chair Torah study greeting people with a blessing conducting business going on a ...
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Daf yomi on Tisha b'Av

There is a strong tradition (maybe halakha?) to not engage in most learning on Tisha b'Av (with a few exceptions). Many of us learn daily and I understand that we generally suspend our learning for ...
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Do the customs in regards to *Yud Av* apply to *Yud-Aleph Av* on a year when the fast is pushed off?

I know that people have the custom (I don't know how universal it is), to keep a lot of the restrictions of the nine days until Chatzos on Yud Av. Such as not eating meat or doing laundry. This year ...
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Why do we not say selichot on Tisha B'Av?

Every fast day on the Jewish calendar has its set of selichot that are said. The one exception to this is Tisha B'Av. This seems counter-intuitive to me because Tisha B'Av is the day when we mourn the ...
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How certain do I need to be that my Yom Kippur shoes are leather-free?

Okay, no leather shoes for Yom Kippur (or Tisha B'Av). I always assumed if the label said ALL MAN MADE MATERIALS or 100% CANVAS or something like that, that we could trust the label. (Would they ...
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How long must clothes be worn before the 9 days for them to count as not fresh?

I've only read "short period" as a time given for how long to wear clothes you're planning on putting on during the 9 days. Is there anything more specific than that? Is there an efficient and ...
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Why are Torah study and trips, specifically, banned on the 8th of Av?

The Rama, Orach Chayim 553, says: The practice is that we do not study [Torah] the day before the ninth of Av from midday on, except such matters as are permitted [study material] on the ninth…. ...
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Why don't we say Avinu Malcanu on Tisha B' Av?

Why don't we say Avinu Malcanu on Tisha B' Av? The Artscroll Siddur says "on fast days that tachanun is omitted...", is there any other reason?
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Why are the kinos about Jeremiah's appeal to the avos out of order?

The kina (elegy, said on the ninth of Av) about Jeremiah's going to ask the avos to pray (kina 21 in at least some versions, 26 in the Artscroll edition) is said before the one about Tziyon's telling ...
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Sleeping at the Kotel on Tisha B'av

This Tisha B'av morning I was at the Kotel for shachrit, and I noticed a whole bunch of people sleeping there. I'm not talking about people who nodded off during slichot due to low blood sugar, I'm ...
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Havdallah after Tisha B'Av

When Tisha B'Av immediately follows Shabbos (either because the 9th of Av is Shabbos or because the 9th of Av is Sunday), how and when do we make havdallah?
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Promising not to Destroy the World, and “I will Return the World to Water”

After the Mabul (deluge/flood), Hashem promised that he would not destroy the world. Yet we know from Tisha Bav and Yom Kippur's "Asarah Harugay Malchus" (“The Ten Martyrs”) poem that when they were ...
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Staying to enjoy the unexpected playing of recorded music during the 3 weeks/9 days

Assuming for a moment that one holds that the prohibition of listening to music during the Three Weeks / Nine Days applies to recorded music, if one were in a store that had music playing on the ...
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Was the fast of Tisha B'av in effect during the second temple era? [duplicate]

As the Beis Hamikdash was rebuilt at that time was the fast of Tisha B'Av in effect during the Second Temple Era?
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What are the opinions regarding eating small-bits-at-a-time (“leshiurin”) on Tisha B'Av when necessary?

I know on Yom Kippur, if someone is medically required to eat, s/he should do so with only a bit of food every few minutes, to avoid the full severity of eating "a full serving in one sitting." On ...
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Extended fasting on 10 Av

The Bavli (Taanit 29a) teaches that the Temple was set aflame on the ninth of Av in the afternoon and it burnt until sundown on the tenth of Av. The Yerushalmi (Taanit 4:6) records that because of ...
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Why is the Eicha reading broken up?

It seems to me that everywhere I've been, the reading of Eicha on Tish'a B-av night has been broken up, with different chapters read by different people. Why is this custom so prevalent, specifically ...
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If the “ten martyrs” didn't happen together, did the punishment-for-Joseph story happen? When?

It's commonly believed that the "ten martyrs" didn't all live in the same time period, and the description of them as a group is conceptual, not historical. Now the story opens with a Roman ruler ...
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Tisha B'av Fasting in Second Temple Times

The prophet Zechariah 7:3 brings a question he was asked by Jews during the Second Temple as to whether or not they should continue fasting on Tisha B'av, presumably because the Temple had been ...
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What exactly is the purpose of Tisha B'av?

So recently I was answering a question about why we don't say selichos on Tisha B'av,and I answered basicaly saying that the purpose on Tisha B'av isn't to ask for forgiveness, rather it is for ...
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Why are there only 8 Martyrs in the Tisha b'av kinnos

The kinna on Tisha b'av says there are 10 Martyrs, but only 8 are named. In the Yom Kippur version, however, all 10 are mentioned. Why are 2 missing from Tisha b'av?
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Studying Holocaust Responsa on Tish'ah BeAv

One of the restrictions practiced on Tish'ah BeAv is the study of Torah, because Torah study "gladdens the heart". Several exceptions have been formally codified, which are of a nature germane to the ...
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When does the prohibition against eating meat during the 9 Days start?

does the prohibition regarding eating meat start at night or in the morning? If this is unclear... On Rosh Chodesh (the night of, the night we say yala ve yavo) can we have meet for dinner? I know ...
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Can you learn portions of Avot D'Rav Nattan on Tish'a B'Av?

This M.Y. answer provides a list of permissible learning items on Tish'a B'Av. All these items are somehow related to the themes of mourning, the Temple destruction, etc. Avot D'Rav Natan has several ...
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9 be-Av on Shabbos

When 9 be-Av falls on Shabbos, it is moved to the following Sunday. Are there any restrictions on Shabbos because of 9 be-Av (maybe tashmish is forbidden)?
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Sitting on a toilet during Tisha B'Av

May one sit on a toilet during Tisha B'Av, when sitting on chairs is generally forbidden? Are there any requirements that he hurry up as much as possible?
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Are you allowed to study (not Torah) on Tisha Bi'Av

For example if someone has a big math test on Yud Av, is he allowed to study math (my question was applied to math but goes to learning anything besides Torah) on Tisha Bi'Av?
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Why do we say the normal Mishnayos after Birkas HaTorah on Tisha BeAv?

After Birkas HaTorah in the morning, we say a Pasuk (VaYedaber ... YeVarechecha ... VaAni Avarachem), a Mishna (Eilu Dvarim SheEin LaHem Shiyur ... VeTalmud Torah) and some Gemara (Eilu Devarim ...
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How do hats contrast with sounds?

The elegy "אש תוקד בקרבי", in the 9 Av liturgy, contrasts our exodus from Egypt after enslavement there with our exile from Jerusalem with the Temple's destruction. It comprises 23 couplets, each ...
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What can one learn on Tisha B'Av?

What are you allowed to learn on Tisha B'Av in general particularity which Gemara's?
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Showering after chatzos on Friday the 8th of Av

This year the ninth of Av falls out on Shabbos which means that there are somewhat different laws that are practiced than in a typical year at this time (e.g. the fast is observed on Sunday). With ...
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Proper Reading of the Word זועה

The word זועה appears six times in tanach: Yeshayahu 28:19 Yirmiyahu 15:4 Yirmiyahu 24:9 Yirmiyahu 29:18 Yirmiyahu 34:17 Divrei Hayamim II 29:8 In each one of these instances except the first, the ...
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Are there Peirushim on the Tisha BAv Night kinot available on the internet?

In my preperation for this evening I have found lots of material for tomorrow's kinot, however, I have found next to nothing on this evening's kinot (Zekhor Hashem, Baleil Zeh, Shomron Kol Titein and ...
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Heter for shaving during the week of Tisha B'Av for work reasons

Is there any posek who allows shaving during shavua shechal bo (the week in which Tisha B'Av falls, up to Tisha B'Av itself) if, by not shaving, one may lose his job? R' Moshe Feinstein allows shaving ...
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using this website on tisha b'av?

It is known that one's not allowed to learn on tisha b'av; what is the halachic status of using this site on tisha b'av?
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Can you wash your hands completely after Chatzos on Tisha B'Av?

One of the restrictions of Tisha B'Av is to only wash your hands until the knuckles. Is this restriction relaxed after Chatzos on Tisha B'Av? (sources please)
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Wiping hands on Tisha b'Av

Since many authorities permit wiping the hands if one does not have water to wash with (when washing for bread), is one forbidden to wipe their hands on Tisha b'Av?
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What is the connection between Moshiach and Tisha B'Av?

I often see the following from Yerushalmi Berachot cited as a source that Moshiach will be born on Tisha B'Av: עובדא הוה בחד יהודאי דהוה קאים רדי געת תורתיה קומוי עבר חד ערביי ושמע קלה א"ל בר ...
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Surgery During the “The Three Weeks” and Tisha b'Av

Are there restrictions having surgery during the "Three Weeks" and Tisha b'Av? What are the sources for restrictions/limitations if there any?
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Studying mussar and philosophy on tisha b'av

Can one learn mussar on tisha b'av, or how about Kuzari or Moreh Nevuchim? Is it considered to be the study of Torah, which gladdens, or is it, since it is mussar, okay?
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Can a Ba'al Kri'ah review the parshiot that he must lain on Tish'a B'Av?

I understand that we are not supposed to learn Torah, in general from afternoon of Erev Tish'a B'av until after chatzot of Tish'a B'av except for designated areas such as Eicha, Iyov, etc. Does this ...
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Saying goodbye on Tisha B'Av

On Tisha B'Av, the custom is to refrain from greeting people. Even a brief "hello" is to be avoided if possible. Does the same restriction apply to saying "good-bye"? Or is that not considered a ...