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If someone goes to Israel on Vacation on Yom Tov and decides to stay in Israel to live in Middle of the second day what does he do about Melacha and davening on the Second day of Yom Tov if that very morning they Davened a Yom Tov davening?

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See also judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/8106 – msh210♦ Jun 6 '11 at 15:54
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There are Poskim that hold that even a visitor to Eretz Yisroel holds only one day, and then there are Poskim that hold that you have to be in Eretz Yisroel for a complete round of Chagim (Pesach, Shavuos, Succos - not neccessarily in this order) before you hold one day.

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I cannot cite a direct textual source, but I've heard that Lubavitch holds that one may not leave Eretz Yisrael once there (although circumstances may force one to do so), and that by virtue of simply being there one should only keep one day. – Seth J Apr 28 '11 at 15:39
@Seth: that one should not leave Eretz Yisrael is actually in Rambam (Hil. Melachim 5:9); I'm not aware of any Lubavitch-specific statements on the subject (לא ראינו אינו ראיה, of course). As for one day vs. two - true, but that is based on a statement by R' Shneur Zalman of Liadi (in his Shulchan Aruch, Mahadura Basra, Orach Chaim 1:8) that this is strictly a geographical issue rather than one of personal status - and thus, that a person in E.Y. (whether temporarily or permanently) should always keep one day, and conversely, a person in Chu"l should always keep two days. – Alex Jun 6 '11 at 14:18
@Alex, are you saying that one has nothing to do with the other, that RaMBa"M's opinion that one may never leave is not the reason for RS"Z's opinion that the Halachah is tied to the location not the person's status vis a vis his location (ie., permanence or transience)? If that's what you are asserting and have a basis for saying so, I'll accept that at your word, as I was just reporting what was told to me by a student studying in Israel a number of years ago. I never saw a source for the opinion, much less anything that gave a reason for it. – Seth J Jun 7 '11 at 17:28
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@Seth, RSZ's expression is: כי עת רצון שלמעלה ויחודים עליונים שבקריאת שמע ותפילה וקדושת שבת ויום טוב הוא למעלה מגדר המקום והזמן רק שמאיר למטה לכל מקום ומקום בזמנו הראוי לו וזהו ג"כ הטעם ששורה קדושה עליונה בחוץ לארץ ביום טוב שני של גליות ולכן גם בני ארץ ישראל הבאים לחוץ לארץ חייבים בקדושת היום אף שדעתם לחזור כמו שנתבאר בהלכות יו"ט. Elsewhere (Orach Chaim 496:11) he cites an opinion that people from chu"l who come to Eretz Yisrael, even if דעתן לחזור, keep one day. In neither place does he seem to associate this with being allowed or not allowed to leave E"Y. – Alex Jun 10 '11 at 18:40
Sorry to follow up so late, but I'm confused. I'm not sure I understand the beginning. It's HaShem's will that we have 2 days in Ḥutz LaAretz? How (according to RS"Z) is it that HaShem "shines down" Kedushah on Ḥutz LaAretz on Y"T Sheni? – Seth J Nov 3 '11 at 17:56
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This answer may actually be more belonging here:

When do you become "Israeli" as far as the laws regarding doing only 1 day of Hag?

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Indeed the answer to that question may very well render this question moot. – WAF♦ Jun 6 '11 at 14:03
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When I was visting Israel to decide which community I wanted to live in, a person there suggested that I buy a room or closet in someone's house so that I can be currently owning some land in Israel. At that point, I would be only required to keep one day Yom Tov.

If they decide in the middle of Yom Tov that they want to move to Israel, in that case (if the logic works at all) you would not be able to purchase the item. I don't know what would happen if someone who keeps 1 day decided to buy you the land and then give it to you as a gift.. perhaps that could work.

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