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Can warning for a capital crime be accomplished by telephone?

  • Hello?
  • Are you aware that it is currently שבת where you are?
  • Yes. I am aware of the punishment and prepared to do it anyway.
  • Are you aware that what you are about to do constitutes a violation thereof?
  • Yes. I am aware of the punishment and prepared to do anyway.

  • Or something like that.

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    up vote 7 down vote accepted

    We need direct witnesses.

    Oh by the way, a simple "yes" is not enough of a response to a warning, it must be "yes I am aware of the punishment and prepared to do anyway." (Rambam Sanhedrin 12:3, אפילו אמר יודע אני, פטור: עד שיתיר עצמו למיתה, ויאמר על מנת כן אני עושה)

    As for the warning, the Gemara says "even if a demonic voice said don't do that or you'll get punished and the fellow acknowledged it", that would count as the warning. The warning is just to clarify that his act is intentional.

    Similarly the Rambam codifies "even if a voice said don't do it", that's considered a warning. (Rambam's code consistently omits the whole demon business, but the idea is the same.) So certainly a telephone warning would count.

    Rambam, Laws of Sanhedrin and the Punishments under their Jurisdiction, 12:4:

    ובין שהתרה בו אחד מן העדים, או שהתרה בו אחר בפני עדים--אפילו אישה או עבד, אפילו שמע קול המתרה ולא ראהו, ואפילו התרה בעצמו--הרי זה נהרג.

    The warning could have come from one of the witnesses, or someone else in the witnesses' presence ... even if he heard a voice warning but did not see him, even if he warned himself!

    The only caveat in your phone case is that the witnesses must be aware of the warning, and of the perpetrator's acknowledgement thereof. So it would have to be on speakerphone!

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    Maybe there were direct witnesses, but they didn't know to give hasrah. –  Tzvi Feb 22 '11 at 16:04
        
    @Tzvi, exactly. We need witnesses physically present, and we need a warning. The two don't have to go together. –  Shalom Feb 22 '11 at 16:18
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