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MichaelS wrote:

The case: Ben Noah in the process of giyur. Stood before the Beis Din and was asked question 'Will you follow the mitzvot as fully as a goy can up until the end of the process of giyur and completely after the process is done?'.

Do bate din (Jewish courts) in fact demand that a potential ger do mitzvos to the extent possible before giyur? If so, I assume it's so the ger knows what he's getting into and/or so he gets practice, but is that demand codified in halacha or only a practical measure taken by bate din?

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I do not believe that this is necessary, at least with regards to Talmudic halacha, though I may be wrong (which is why this isn't an answer). –  rosenjcb Aug 19 '14 at 13:45
if a joy wants to keep mee9woth before conversion there is no problem in doing so. he is allowed to wear tafilleen and keep shabboth if he wishes and study torah. but i assume it is not a must because when converting we must teach him/her the laws of kashruth and shabboth and so on. but we should not teach him all at once for he/she might be over whelmed and be discouraged to follow the halochoth. from here we see in talmudic times people converted without knowing any halochoth. –  MoriDoweedhYaa3qob Aug 19 '14 at 19:00
Own experience: they do. Also, a goy can make vows and is punished from Shamayim if he does not follow them, so until he becomes a ger he is obliged by his vow (unless he decides not to continue the process), then he's obliged like a ger is. See: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/44527/… . As I am writing, I know this only from one experience, I don't know the general case. I was instructed to 'observe what I can and wear tallis qatan, eat kosher, keep Shabbos as much as possible, keep tznius, ...' and asked will I follow - as I understood. –  MichaelS Aug 22 '14 at 14:41

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I heard from R. Nota Greenblatt, one of America's foremost poskim, that this is a relatively recent development. In Europe converts expressed dedication to keep mitzvos, and then "learned on the job"

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