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There are strong suggestions within Chabad literature that the Rebbe was considered to be a prophet (Devar Malchut, see below). Some suggest that the Rebbe himself didn't do enough to discourage his followers to stop thinking that he was moshiach. It could be that he simply didn't know if he was or not. He did however, make attempts to admonish the practice (Sichos Kodesh, Parshas Noach 5752):

Schneerson responded by writing "It has come to pass that because of his [Wolpo's] activities ... hundreds of Jews have stopped learning Chassidus, and now oppose the Baal Shem Tov and his teachings in actuality. It appeared to some that the Rebbe finally approved of the declaration of the Rebbe as Messiah at a public talk on the 6th of Iyar 1991 when young Rabbi Dovid Nachshon and others repeated Yechi also on the hebrew date of the 15th of Iyar the Rebbe for the first time encouraged the singing of "Yechi", the slogan about the Rebbe being the Messiah." In fact, however, several months later on the 4th Cheshvan 5752, at a farbrengen (Chassidic gathering) on Shabbat Parshat No'ach, the Rebbe publicly admonished those who were singing that song. He threatened to leave the farbrengen, and only stayed so that it would not dissipate.

After having been given some texts (see images below, from Davar Malchut, Mishpatim) of the 'messianic rhetoric' it appears that there are heavy references to the Rebbe (throughout his sichot) that gives the impression that he is not only a prophet but the 'chosen one of Hashem'. Other literary examples include: "the shofet, yoetz and navi of our generation", "we are obliged to listen to him [as a prophet]", "we are not allowed to doubt his prophecy", "they are not only the words of a navi, rather the words of the Lord through this prophet!", "all people in this generation must recognise, that we have merited that Hashem has chosen…", etc.

Although not mentioning it explicitly, the sicha strongly suggests that he is the chosen messiah. (Whether this is considered normative Judaism is not the scope of this question, related). These books were written in his lifetime and purportedly endorsed and checked by the Rebbe himself (source needed! I heard this from a Chabad chasid that I was discussing this with).

Does this mean that he agreed that he was a prophet and the messiah? Or were his followers over zealous in this claim?

(related 'relations with messianists')

(related wiki article, chabad messianism)

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it is important to note that many Talmudic Rabbi's saw their teachers as having messianic qualities, furthermore see this book by Rabbi Gil Student proving the Rebbe is not Moshiach from the Rebbe's own works: moshiachtalk.tripod.com/bikores –  Efraim May 14 '14 at 21:54
@bondonk judaism.stackexchange.com/q/22814/759 –  Double AA May 14 '14 at 22:10
The way this was explained to me is that there is a "choshesh of moschiach" where someone has the potential to become moshiach if the generation merits it. The precedent usually given is Rabbi Akiva believing this about Bar Kochba. The Rebbe and the Rebbe's followers believed that Rebbe had "choshesh of moshiach" but was not actually moshiach when he was alive. However, now that he has died without becoming moshiach, we assume that this is "choshesh" has expired or passed to a different gadol. –  Tatpurusha May 14 '14 at 22:20
@Tatpurusha The Lubavicher that I spoke to said that it was 'accepted' that he was (and is), amongst Chabad, the mashiach. The Rebbe downplayed it because he felt it was turning people away from Judaism, but, purportedly, did not deny that he was. Messianists will challenge his death as not being a deciding factor, citing the gemara which mentions that a messiah coming from the dead will be like Rabi (or Rabbi Yehuda?) i.e. it is possible. –  bondonk May 14 '14 at 22:28
@bondonk I think the 'yellows' like to imagine that their doctrine is really held by all of Chabad, but fairly adamant denial that the Rebbe is moshiach has been very common: the explanation I just gave was given to me by a teacher at a Chabad yeshiva. If the Rebbe really believed that he had "choshesh of moshiach" then it would be difficult for him to deny that he was moshiach. –  Tatpurusha May 14 '14 at 22:49

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As a Lubavitcher, I just want to clarify some things about the sources you are quoting. The sicha you have in the picture is the Rebbe's own teachings. Likkutei Sichos, Sefer Hasichos 5747-5752 (5750, 5751, 5752) - are all considered purely the Rebbe's chassidus. The Rebbe approved of every word in those sfarim. (That is an undisputed fact.)

(There are other sforim that were written up by chassidim based on the Rebbe's farbrengens and sichos (talks), but were not looked over by the Rebbe himself. Some examples would be Sichos Kodesh, Hisvadios)

The sicha you have in the picture is what the Rebbe endorsed to be printed.

If you want to know what the Rebbe's opinion is: Based on the approved ("muggah" in Chabad terminology) sources, the Rebbe himself pretty clearly states that the Nossi of the generation is the Moshiach of the generation (for example here - Parshas Mishpatim 5752), that our generation is the one that will actually bring the Final Geulah, and that the Rebbe is considered a Novi (see the sicha you quoted).

I need to link the sources.

Regarding those instances you mention- that is true. However, based on my understanding - it is clear that the Rebbe says that he is a prophet, and almost explicitly says that he is Moshiach, but what is argued is that it is not our task to go telling the world that the Rebbe is Moshiach. If you know it for yourself, or if someone figures it out themself - fine, but no mitzva to publicize it if that will turn yidden away from Yiddishkeit.

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I'm not sure that "it is an undisputed fact" is evidence to claim veracity –  bondonk Feb 11 at 6:21
Also, since he is never explicit about this point exactly it leads many to assume that his mashiach/prophet status was a hope of his chassidim, nothing more –  bondonk Feb 11 at 6:23
About Prophet status: Learn the Sicha of Shoftim 5751 - it's quite explicit. –  11213 Feb 11 at 6:24
@bondonk Just an example: Shabbos Mishpatim 5752- the Rebbe said that the current events of that Friday, where the United Nations decided to give money for agriculture instead of for arms, "״וכתתו חרבותם לאתים - is a direct cause of Moshiach Tzidkeinu's affects on the world, and the fact that the UN is in New York is significant - it is because the Rebbe, Moshiach, came to NY and began elevating it. -Take it as you wish, and you don't have to trust me. [Learn it in the source][5]. –  11213 Feb 11 at 6:44
@bondonk He's pretty explicit about the Frierdiker Rebbe being Moshiach –  Shmuel Brin Feb 11 at 6:50

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