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Is there anything wrong/are there any problems with a person davening a long shemoneh esrei, so much so that they miss chazaras hashatz, including kedusha, and all the ameins...?

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Qitzur Shulhhan Arukh - Yalqut Yosef, Siman 109:6 states:

ומי שמאריך בתפלתו באופן שהצבור מסיימים להתפלל ערבית, והוא עדיין בתפלתו, ובליל ח' לחודש שהצבור מברך ברכת הלבנה, מפסיד אמירת הברכה ברוב עם, יש לו להשתדל להתרגל לכוין מהר, כדי שיסיים את התפלה ויאמר ברכת הלבנה עם הצבור ברוב עם. אבל אם הצבור מתפלל יותר מדאי במהירות, והוא מתעכב לצורך כוונה הכרחית בביאור המלים, אין בכך כלום שמפסיד אמירת ברכת הלבנה ברוב עם, אחר דתפלה בלא כוונה כגוף בלא נשמה. ומכל מקום ישתדל להתרגל לכוין מהר גם כדי להרויח עניית קדיש

The last sentence is crucial here in that "one should accustom oneself to concentrate while praying a bit more quickly [...] to merit responding to Qaddish".

Nevertheless, if a tzibbur prays far too quickly for one to concentrate, one should only pray as quickly as possible without sacrificing concentration.

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He does seem to limit it to when they say kidush levana after maariv, no? Is chararas hashatz more important? (e.g. What would be for mincha instead of maariv)? – gt6989b Apr 9 '14 at 0:50
In the last sentence, he seems to state that, in general, one should accustom oneself to speed a tiny bit so as to merit answering Amen to Qaddish. – Lee Apr 9 '14 at 0:58
thank you very much – gt6989b Apr 9 '14 at 0:59
A crucial omission from your English summary: The Kitzur writes that a slow congregant should make efforts to become accustomed to being able to concentrate at a faster pace. By implication, until he is actually successful in doing so, the need for at least a minimal level of concentration (i.e. attention to the plain meaning of the words) takes precedence over answering amein to d'varim she'bikdusha. See also Sha'arei T'shuva (OC 52:1) who writes that the need to concentrate takes precedence, though one should try to time his prayers so that he can answer to bar'chu and k'dusha. – Fred Apr 9 '14 at 17:17
@Fred Thanks for your comments, though I think they are accurately reflected in or implied by my English summary. – Lee Apr 9 '14 at 17:44

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