Take the 2-minute tour ×
Mi Yodeya is a question and answer site for those who base their lives on Jewish law and tradition and anyone interested in learning more. It's 100% free, no registration required.

It has already been established that Ashkenazim generally stand for Kaddish, while Sephardim sit unless they were already standing. (That said, I have observed Sephardim who davka sit for Kaddish.)

What should an Ashkenazi do in a Sephardi shul? Should one davka stand? On the other extreme, is it even permissible to go against the minhag hamakom of sitting? Conversely, should a Sephardi stand or sit for Kaddish when praying at an Ashkenazi shul?

share|improve this question
    
There's probably room to do it either way. –  Tatpurusha Apr 7 at 18:46
    
@Tatpurusha so if my preference is to stand always, i should do that even when i find myself at a Sfardi shul? And if someone else likes to go with the minhag hamakom, that's also acceptable? –  Scimonster Apr 7 at 18:48
    
Let me put it to you this way: if you're in a synagogue that lays tefillin on chol ha-moed, and your custom is to not do so, or vice-versa, is it good to follow your own custom or the custom of the synagogue? –  Tatpurusha Apr 7 at 18:51
    
@Tatpurusha Hmm, i've never learned that halacha. :) Follow your own custom? –  Scimonster Apr 7 at 18:54
1  
This is a very complicated issue. If you want my advice, ask the rav of the shul where you're going if he minds if you follow your own minhag. My instincts tell me that we are significantly less concerned today about minhag hamakom then we were even a hundred years ago, and so it should be fine to hold either way. –  Tatpurusha Apr 7 at 19:00

1 Answer 1

up vote 5 down vote accepted

Qitzur Shulhhan Arukh - Yalqut Yosef, Siman 56:11 writes (my translation):

מנהג האשכנזים כדעת הרמ''א, לעמוד בשעה שעונים קדיש וברכו, וספרדי שמתפלל עם אשכנזים, נכון שיעמוד גם הוא עמהם בעת אמירת קדיש וברכו, כדי שלא יהיה בכלל יושב בין העומדים.

The Ashkenazi custom, per the ReM"A, is to stand when responding to Qaddish and Barekhu. And, as for a Sepharadi praying with Ashkenazim, it is proper for him to also stand with them when responding to Qaddish and Barekhu, so as not to sit among those standing.

My $0.02: Perhaps Hakham 'Ovadiah is poseq this way since standing among those sitting or sitting amongst those standing could cause Mahhloqet. Again, that interpretation is mine and he does not write that explicitly. He simply writes "so as not to sit among those standing".

Rav Chaim (Howard) Jachter rules similarly (in "Sephardic and Ashkenazic Practice: Do You Sit or Stand for Kaddish?") for an Ashkenazi praying amidst Sepharadim (i.e. that one should follow Minhag HaMaqom):

In addition to conforming to Minhag HaMakom (which, in general, is the proper practice – see Mishnah Pesahim 4:1) it seems disrespectful to Hashem if one would exclude himself from a Kehillah which is standing in honor of Hashem. Conversely, it seems appropriate for an Ashkenazi praying at a Sephardic synagogue to follow the custom of the Kehillah to remain seated for Kaddish.

share|improve this answer
    
Thanks for your answer. However, i only find this addresses half of my question. What would an Ashkenazi do in a Sfardi shul? –  Scimonster Apr 8 at 7:28
    
Added publication from Rav Chaim Jachter for Ashkenazi amidst Sepharadim –  Lee Apr 8 at 21:46
    
I can't seem to find any additional reference to the hyperlink included of Rav Jachter's publication. This worries me a bit and makes me questions its authenticity. Can anyone validate? –  Lee Apr 8 at 21:52
    
I've updated the Rav Jachter source to a more reliable one (the "Jewish Link of Bergen County" archive). It appears he did, in fact, rule in accordance with the bolded text in my answer. –  Lee Sep 14 at 8:01
    
Thank you for the awesome edit, Tamir Evan! –  Lee Sep 15 at 10:56

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.