Mi Yodeya is a question and answer site for those who base their lives on Jewish law and tradition and anyone interested in learning more. It's 100% free, no registration required.

Sign up
Here's how it works:
  1. Anybody can ask a question
  2. Anybody can answer
  3. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top

I have heard it said before that Chazal (חז"ל = חכמינו זכרונם לברכה; "our sages of blessed memory") refers to sages of the Mishna and Gemara, while Razal (רז"ל = רבנים/נו זכרונם לברכה; "our/the rabbonim of blessed memory") refers to Rishonim exclusively. I can't see that I have necessarily seen this distinction borne out by the literature, and suspect, though might be wrong, that the two are more-or-less interchangeable.

Can anybody clarify whether or not there is actually a distinction between these two terms, or whether or not anybody holds that there should be a distinction between them, and what that distinction might be?

share|improve this question
I think it is generally that way, but there are definitely exceptions – Yishai Apr 3 '14 at 22:17
@Yishai - For all I know, though, his "מקום אחר" is personal correspondence. Do you know of any printed texts that use Chazal to refer to acharonim? – Shimon bM Apr 3 '14 at 23:11
Yes, it is a common attribution for that statement in Chassidic literature, even though the source for it is at earliest the Shiloh HaKadosh - an early Achron. However, it is an unusual formulation, and has been commented on. – Yishai Apr 4 '14 at 2:01
The Tanya seems to use razal to refer to the Gemara. – andrewmh20 Sep 15 '14 at 21:20

Your Answer


By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.