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I know Rav Eliezer was one, but do we know other members of Beth Shammai?

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How do you know he was? What is Beth Shammai? What does membership entail? How much were/are dues? –  Seth J Mar 24 at 19:58

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There is no record of the membership of Beis Shammai, or Beis Hillel for that matter. The Babylonian Talmud tells us a bit about Beis Hillel -- e.g. Sukkos 28a and Bava Basra 134a record the number of Hillel's disciples as 80 (see also Yeurshalmi Talmud, Nedarim 39b), and both sources mention two of them by name, Yonasan ben Uzziel and Yochanan ben Zakkai, identified as the greatest and least of Hillel's students, respectively. Rabban Gamliel HaZaken, the Av Beis din in the period prior to the Temple's destruction, and a grandson of Hille, would be presumably in the ranks of Beis Hillel, although he is frequently cited by his own name. No such traditions are recorded of the members of Beis Shammai. We do know three names of the Shammaites -- Baba ben Buṭa (Betzah 20a), Dositai of Kefar Yetma (Mishna Orlah 2:5), and Tzadok (Tosef., Mishna Edyos 2:2); but the Talmud mentions them only because they voted to uphold the views of Beis Hillel in contradiction to their own school.

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Don't forget R' Dosa's brother, R' Yonasan ben Hyrcanus (Y'rushalmi Y'vamos 1:6, יונתן אחי הוה בכור שטן ומתלמידי בית שמאי - the version in the Bavli 16a states that he was a student of Shammai). Also R' Yochanan ben HaChoranis (Tosefta Eiduyos 2:2, שאף על פי שהוא מתלמידי בית שמאי לא היה נוהג אלא כדברי בית הילל). Also, as mentioned by the OP, R' Eliezer ben Hyrcanus (Y'rushalmi Nazir 6:11, ורבי אליעזר שמותי הוא דתני נזיר ומירט בית שמאי אומרים צריך להעביר תער על ראשו... כן היא מתניתא יטהר ויביא שאר קרבנו; Rashi on Shabbos 130b s.v. שמותי הוא). Also יועזר איש הבירה (Mishna Orlah 2:12). –  Fred Mar 25 at 0:27

Bava Ben Buta was a student of Beis Shammai, however he accepted the ruling of Beis Hillel

והיה שם זקן אחד מתלמידי שמאי הזקן ובבא בן בוטא שמו

(Beitzah 20a)

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Thanks! What do you mean exactly by "he accepted the ruling of beis hillel"? When did he accept it ? –  chadashasurminhatorah Mar 24 at 20:23
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@chadashasurminhatorah It is the next line of the gemara I quoted - he was a student of Shammai, but he "knew" the halacha followed beis Hillel, and acted accordingly (in a dispute about bringing sacrifices on Yom Tov). –  YEZ Mar 24 at 20:25

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