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Can it hurt to include Nekudos (vowel marks) when typing Hebrew? Do all systems that support Hebrew lettering automatically support Nekudos? If not, do they at least degrade gracefully?

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FWIW I went with the letters tag over the pronunciation tag because the vowel marks are treated here as written things. –  Double AA Mar 28 '12 at 21:37
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If this were just about word processing it would be off topic; if this were just about Hebrew, it would be off topic. Because it's about both Hebrew and word processing it's on topic? –  Seth J Mar 28 '12 at 22:13

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Nikudot support has been problematic for a long time, on many applications. I do not know whether Windows magically gets it right, but I know Linux has had difficulties (and many applications still do have difficulties).

Several years ago, I sent a survey of nikudot support to the authors of many important Linux applications (word processors specifically), complete with screenshots. Many of these applications supported nikudot badly, and they definitely did not degrade gracefully. Some of the developers involved took made fixes based on my email, but some fonts are still problematic.

I find I get the best results with nikudot using OpenType fonts such as Ezra SIL or Frank Ruehl OT, and it doesn't really matter what application I'm working in.

All in all, it's very dependent on what font and what application you use (though application in the major office and creative apps is pretty good these days).

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Is it difficult to convert the Culmus fonts to Windows? –  Barry Oct 21 '10 at 21:21
    
gnome-terminal works now. –  Shmuel Brin Mar 28 '12 at 22:11

Most of fonts do support nekudos. Necudos are also supported by Unicode.

The programming moves toward Unicode, for example in Java the String object is Unicode out of the box (unlike C,C++,...), so I think that the systems that don't support Nekudos do degrade.

However there are always legacy code on old programming languages (like COBOL) that would probably live forever that don't supports nekudos, but mainly just business logic is implemented that way, the user interface part mostly written on more user friendly languages.

Hope this was not too much programming-oriented answer :)

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Hebrew Support for Your Browser (last updated: 6 October 2009)

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/tech.htm

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In Linux (I use Debian 6), Nekudos work through typing in Hebrew with Shift. So for example, Shift -

  • e - ָ
  • r - הּ
  • y - ‎‎‎‎‎‏הֹ‏
  • u - הַ
  • a - הְ
  • s - הּ
  • g - הׂ
  • h - הׁ
  • j - הִ
  • k - ה₪
  • z - הֶ
  • x - הֶ
  • c - הֻ
  • v - הֱ
  • b - הֲ
  • n - הֳ
  • m - הֵ
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what's shift-k supposed to be? –  Menachem Mar 29 '12 at 1:00
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New Israeli Shekel symbol. –  Shmuel Brin Mar 29 '12 at 1:51
    
@Menachem it's like letters ש and ח together, stands for שקל חדש. –  jutky Mar 29 '12 at 10:08

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