Take the 2-minute tour ×
Mi Yodeya is a question and answer site for those who base their lives on Jewish law and tradition and anyone interested in learning more. It's 100% free, no registration required.

To quote msh210's formulation of this site's rule on intimate topics:

Please respect that in the Jewish tradition certain questions, especially certain questions relating to sexuality, are discussed only in private. Such questions will be closed or deleted at the discretion of the moderators or community.

This formulation has since become site policy, and it has been added to the help pages and the 's tag wiki.


First, what sources record this idea?

Furthermore, why is it our tradition that these topics be kept private? What reasons have our sages given for doing so? Is this tradition halachic or minhagic in nature?

(Sources please!)


(The original meta question on this site policy has recently seen some new activity, which prompted this question, to be used as a resource for any further discussion that might occur.)

share|improve this question
    
I'm not sure that it is actually true in the first place. Throughout yeshivos one can encounter public discussions of various topics regarding intimacy; it just happens to be that they are wrapped in yeshivish language and impenetrable to the uninitiated. I think it's more accurate to say that these topics are not discussed using direct or inappropriate language. Thoughts, anyone? –  Malper Dec 27 '13 at 2:51
    
@Malper, First, yeshivos could (arguably, conceivably) be considered semi-private. But even in yeshivos, there is a very strict subset of intimate topics that are discussed. These tend to be the those that directly involve torts and/or court administered punishment. For example, it is very unlikely that you will walk into a shiur on the nature or permissibility of various sexual acts. You could walk into a shiur on capital punishment in which certain acts are mentioned. –  HodofHod Dec 27 '13 at 2:55
3  
Chaggigah 2:1 . –  Double AA Dec 27 '13 at 3:35

1 Answer 1

Rabbi Ahron Lopiansky said that discussing matters of a sexual nature in a public forum is improper, citing the Talmud in Shabbos 33a

Said R. Hanan b. Rabbah: All know for what purpose a bride enters the bridal canopy, yet against whomsoever who speaks obscenely [thereof], even if a sentence of seventy years' happiness had been sealed for him, it is reversed for evil.


Alex's accepted answer to this question about tzniut, modesty, mentions the idea that what is private should remain private, citing biblical verses, and the Talmud.

I think the delicate nature of certain topics, namely sexuality, is evidenced further in Nedarim 20a-b, where Ima Shalom describes the reverent practices of her husband, R' Eliezer, during marital relations, as a reason for her children's beauty. A saying of R' Yohanan in Sukkah 52b bears mentioning as well:

"A person has a small organ. If he starves it, it is satisfied. If he feeds it, it is hungry"

The idea seems to be that approach to a person's sexuality a dangerous thing, because indulgence only increases, rather than sating, one's desire. So one must be very careful when it comes to this area.


Rabbi Lopiansky has dismissed the following as the wrong source, as this pertains specfically to matters of kiddushin, jewish marriage, and not to specific activities in a non-forbidden context:

The Mishnah on Chagiga 11b, (cited by Double AA in the comments on the question), states that one may not expound upon forbidden sexual relationships before three pupils. Rashi explains that this refers to forbidden sexual relationships that are not clearly mentioned in the verses, but are derived from them. He cites Sanhedrin 75a.

In the gemarah, the reason given is that while the rabbi is speaking with one of the students, the other two students will be able to talk amongst themselves, rather than listen to the rabbi, and due to the underlying bias of perpetual sexual desire, they may arrive at the permission of something that is prohibited.

In a broader sense, it would seem that in the absence of a rabbinic authority, discussing topics of sexuality may lead to forbidden sexual activity.

share|improve this answer

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.