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For what it is (if you haven't heard of it), see Card Counting (wikipedia)

Also assuming Gambling is not a problem in that scenario.

It's perfectly legal in the U.S. So would it be a problem in Jewish Law:

  1. If the casino had no rule against it?
  2. If the casino had a rule that one may not card count (if such a rule would be effective)?
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Sure it's legal in the U.S., but you'd get kicked out of every casino. –  Daniel Apr 10 '13 at 21:05
    
@Daniel only if you get caught... –  yydl Apr 10 '13 at 23:07
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ASSUMING IT'S LEGAL IN YOUR COUNTRY/STATE/CITY:

I'd assume if there's no rule against it, you could employ whatever (fair, legal) tactics you want, including card counting. One of the discussions on the permissibility of gambling has to do with whether it's all chance (e.g. rolling fair dice), all skill (e.g. chess), or some combination. If we allow games that are a mix of skill and chance, than you bringing a bit more skill to the table shouldn't make a difference. (If, however, we only allow all-chance games, and card-counting introduces an element of skill to a game otherwise believed to be all-chance, then it would be prohibited.)

If the casino prohibits it, I'd assume that you agree to play by their rules when you walk in their door. I can't think of a heter otherwise (especially regarding an activity that already needs a great deal of heterim, if it's mutar.)

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@Shalom What do you mean by "believed to be all chance"? Whose belief is the significant one? The casino's? Would you have an obligation to inform them if they were running games susceptible to /gaming/? –  WAF Dec 28 '10 at 16:15
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There do not exist casinos which are unaware of the possibility of counting cards, nor do there exist casinos that don't prohibit it. If there were a reliable system to "beat the house" at any game, a casino would lose money at it, which obviously stands a chance of ruining the casino. –  Ze'ev Felsen Jun 30 '11 at 16:09
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On a halachic level, the only issue that comes to mind is dina d'malchusa dina - i.e. we are required to follow secular law.

YYDL also wonders if there is any element of stealing in the act of counting cards.

Let's first address dina d'malchusa.

Counting cards is not illegal, as long as you're not using any device to do it.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-02-17/news/0902170076_1_card-counting-nevada-gaming-control-board-gambling-regulators

However, just like your local 7-11, casinos "reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

http://www.vegas.com/traveltips/guide/gambler.html

Blackjack dealers generally know how to count cards. They are keeping track of the count on the table. If the count is high, and you suddenly increase your bet tenfold; the dealer, and likely the pit boss, will know what you're doing.

Again, counting cards is not illegal. Any money you win on that big bet hand is yours to keep.

However, once that hand is finished, the pit boss might walk over to you and say something like "I'm sorry Mr. Greenberg, you're just too good for us. We invite you to play our other games, but blackjack is now off limits to you."

That's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is having security guards escort you off of the premises.

Also, your face will be entered into a computer system that all casinos share. From then on, anytime you enter any subscribing casino, the face recognition software will identify you as a known card counter, and you might not be allowed to even play the first hand.

The above is all regarding the civil legal code and card counting.

Now, to address YYDL's addendum: is card counting a form of stealing?

The original question started with the condition: "assuming that gambling is permitted". Therefore, I will not rehash the halachic arguments for and against gambling in general.

There are many card games in which the player benefits from taking notice of which cards have already been played. The best bridge players, for example, quickly memorize every card played as it laid on the table, to better understand what is left in their opponents' hands.

The card counter does not cheat, alter the rules, or interfere with the physical composition of the cards in any way. He merely keeps track, mentally, of which types of cards have already been removed from the multi-deck shoe.

Since we have already established that card counting is not against the rules, it cannot be considered cheating. Employing the best strategy possible is the proper way to win at a game - therefore I find it difficult to call it a violation of "lo tignov."

To summarize:

Card counting is legal, not a problem of stealing, but the casinos can kick you out for any reason at any time.

Is it worth the potential chillul Hashem (of being escorted out by security) to make a few bucks? Card counting is mutar, but if you're going to do it, be discreet about it.

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