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Is it asur to speak lashon hara about yourself? The only source have that it is asur is a story about thr Hafes Haim on a train. I'm not sure if that's a sufficient source to assume that it's asur.

I've read the Kisur Hilchot Lashon Hara before and I don't remember it coming up. I've heard that's it's not in the Hilchot Lashon Hara of the Hafes Haim either, but there is that famous story that the Hafes Haim says it is Asur to say Lashon Hara about yourself.

I remember that the Sefer Shaare Teshuva says that you shouldn't tell people your Averot but there are also other types of Lashon Hara. So that's my question.

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I've heard it is; no time to go looking for a source now, though. – Seth J Aug 7 '13 at 15:02
Have you looked through the Chafetz Chayim? – Isaac Moses Aug 7 '13 at 15:10
I think that things we say about ourselves need to be true, and need to have a good reason. Even so, in general terms, we have the right to share sensitive information about ourselves in a way that we do not have with sensitive information about others, because we can't decide on someone else's behalf what is private to them. (This is a comment, not an answer, because it's just my personal thought.) – Annelise Aug 7 '13 at 16:54
There is definitely a saying quoted from the Previous Lubavitcher Rebbe that says that ("Just like you can't say loshon hara about someone else you can't say it about yourself"), but I can't find the source right now. – Yishai Aug 8 '13 at 22:18

This is a rather famous story I believe. R. Hershel Schachter in Nefesh Harav (pg 150) quotes Rabbi Soloveitchik: (loose translation)

there's no novelty in saying that the Chofetz Chaim said that one cannot speak lashon hara about oneself (i.e. it's obviously prohibited), because after all, the whole concept of 'maris ayin' shows that a person doesn't have full jurisdiction over his own reputation to forgo it

The Lubavitcher Rebbe has a letter where he writes (6:1621) that of course, just as a person can't speak badly about another Jew, he cannot speak badly about himself.

However, see here where it seems like the Chofetz Chaim himself was more ambivalent regarding a case of permitting one to say lashon hara about oneself, and I'd imagine that a similar leniency would apply to this case.

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Can I find this letter of the Lubavitcher Rebbe online? Did he write it himself? – Gavriel May 4 '15 at 6:06

If what are saying about yourself is in a contrustive way and will help someone else or help yourself to become inlightened and aware of how to change for th positive, then it is permitted to say loshon hara about yourself.. The Chofetz Chaim writes this in his book a lesson a day - loshon hara 2 vol. One should read this to get a better insight Hope this was helpful

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A lesson a day was written by the Chofetz Chaim? – Shmuel Brin Jan 5 '14 at 17:53

The following is from a Torah Tavlin parsha sheet (M'tzora 5774):

A famous story is told about the holy Chofetz Chaim ZT”L, who sat next to a Jew on a train traveling to Radin. The traveler was unaware of the identity of the man sitting next to him and he mentioned he was going to see the great Tzaddik of Radin. R’ Yisroel Meir protested and said that the rabbi of whom he speaks is not so special. Enraged by the disrespect shown by his fellow traveler, whose identity he did not know, the traveler smacked the Chofetz Chaim.

Later, the Chofetz Chaim set the man’s mind at ease. “I deserved to be beaten,” he said, “because, as I have learned, one may not speak lashon hara - even about oneself!”

Notwithstanding this story, one may wonder as to why this should be the case. Seemingly, one’s feelings are his own. Just as one is permitted - although not encouraged - to embarrass oneself if he so desires, presumably he should reserve the right to speak of his own shortcomings as well.

Indeed, R’ Yosef Sholom Elyashiv ZT”L is cited as remarking that no prohibition exists whatsoever against verbal self-denigration. One may, in fact, speak lashon hara about oneself. R’ Elyashiv commented that to the contrary, the above story proves this position, for we see that even the Chofetz Chayim permitted himself to speak about himself. He would not have done so if it was strictly forbidden by halacha. Only in an attempt to alleviate his assailant’s humiliation did he make the comment that he was wrong for talking about himself. In truth, however, it is permissible.

Nevertheless, R’ Elyashiv insisted that this does not grant other people permission to speak about him. This is compared to a situation where one lets another steal his possessions. Undoubtedly, though, the thief who comes along and seizes his property has violated the prohibition against stealing. Similarly, the fact that a person speaks freely about his own inadequacies has no effect on the prohibition forbidding others from engaging in such talk about him.

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do you know where this statement of R. Elyashiv is recorded? – Matt Jul 22 '14 at 13:39

The story about the Hafes Haim couldn't be, because it's an Isur to cause someone hear Lashon Hara. There are many sources, but I don't have time now. If someone tell about himself and tells to another that the story is about himself - it's Mutar. http://www.kolhalashon.com/New/Shiurim.aspx?Lang=Hebrew&Path=Hebrew|HH|R0697|R0697-1&Order=New2Old&PageNum=8 lesson #143 / #144

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