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I just observed a Facebook conversation regarding an upcoming Siyum, ostensibly taking place because someone had put forth great effort to complete a tractate of Talmud, and not because the organizers wanted to eat meat during the Nine Days. The question was asked whether meat would be served, and someone said, "If there's no Hadran there's no meat."

  • Is that correct? That is, does eating meat at a Siyum during the Nine Days require a Hadran?

If so, then I wonder:

  • Does Hadran require a minyan (as the Siyum-maker apparently assumed in not planning to say the Hadran)?
  • Do the above require Kaddish (or does Kaddish require a Hadran)?
  • And what if there's no Minyan available? Can the Hadran be said anyway? If not, can meat be eaten during the Nine Days anyway?
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I suspect the answer to all your questions is no. –  Double AA Jul 10 '13 at 5:40
the custom in Belz is to never say the Hadran and never say Kaddish after a siyum mesechet - year round. I do not know the reason or source. –  eramm Jul 10 '13 at 10:03
halachafortodaycom.blogspot.com/2012/04/q-page-13.html scroll down to question 617 –  Danno Jul 10 '13 at 11:58
@Danno, thank you for posting. Apparently I am a disgrace many times over and may have made a false promise (at least once). :( –  Seth J Jul 10 '13 at 19:13
@sethj sorry...I didn't mean to invoke that as well. I was just looking up what to do if I don't have a minyan tomorrow night. Other than eat lots of meat. –  Danno Jul 10 '13 at 19:24
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