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I have a vague notion of hearing in various places that America or Western culture in general is Edom and that this final exile is called Galus Edom. Also as in reference to the blessings in Genesis 27, when one is in power (Esau) the other (Jacob) isn't. Anyway, is Western culture considered Edom?

If so, why them (when Europeans existed during the time of the Kingdom of Edom) and not whoever still lives in southern Jordan (where the Kingdom of Edom actually was)?

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Related, lots of of overlap (possible duplicate?) judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/6076/are-europeans-edomites –  HodofHod Jul 9 '13 at 23:34
@HodofHod Hmm, kind of, but I kind of want to know why Jordan lost its "title" of Edom (that is, if Edom is considered some other vague notion of Rome or America or Western culture or Christianity). –  A L Jul 10 '13 at 0:04
Because of where they settled. –  Seth J Jul 10 '13 at 1:28
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Edom is considered by the Rabbis to be the Roman Empire, and while contemporary Western culture isn't Roman per se, it is directly descended from Roman culture and ideas.


It's stated here - http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0006_0_05562.html - that the late Tanaic and Amoraic Rabbis identified Edom as the founders of the Roman Empire. Such comparisons are also scattered across the Gemarah.

This question - Are Europeans Edomites? - echoes this view as well, and describes the differences in opinion as to whether the comparisons of Rome to Edom are literal or metaphorical.

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MarkN, welcome to Mi Yodeya, and thanks very much for contributing an answer! You could make this even more valuable by editing in a source for your point about the Rabbis' equation of Edom with Rome. I hope you'll look around and find other material here that interests you, perhaps including our 19 other questions about exile. –  Isaac Moses Jul 9 '13 at 22:04
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