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When are the Simanim on Rosh HAshanah(symbolic foods) eaten before washing on the Bread or after and at which meal and why?

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I've usually seen them eaten after hamotzee on the first night, and often the second night too.

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Are there any sources for these customs meaning and why? – SimchasTorah Sep 3 '10 at 12:41
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Why after hamotzee? I assume because usually we do kiddush then hamotzee. It sounds from the Gemara like this isn't some spooky ritual thing, rather, eat these foods as part of your meal! (If I said "we eat turkey on Thanksgiving", would anyone think they take one sliver of turkey, then sit down to their meal of falafel?) As for why night and not day, night is the first meal of the new year, so most auspicious time for starting things off. Then second night ... we do everything just like first night. (And we usually have leftovers ... and why not?) – Shalom Sep 3 '10 at 13:10
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An Interesting Review of the Whole Halachic topic

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Just saw regarding the second night when you make Shechiyanu you have in mind the new fruit on the table. Do you have to eat the fruit right after Kiddush before washing? – Gershon Gold Dec 10 '10 at 15:08
Gershon, this should be asked as its own question. – Yahu Jan 2 '11 at 9:12
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The simanim are eaten after Motzi, on both nights, but not the day.

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