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I know listening to a woman sing when she is married or a niddah in person is for sure asur. I know Rabbi Moshe Feinstein says (O.C. vol 1, S 26) that in a theoretical case where she is unmarried and not a niddah it not asur (except of course for sensuous songs). I also know most contemporary opinions say that listening to a recording of a woman who is asur to listen to (the married or niddah woman) is also asur if the listener knows what she looks like (and some opinions also say that it is asur even if the listener doesn't know what she looks like, but I am not asking about those).

However, I am confused about why it would be asur in the last case. The sound waves themselves aren't asur, because the same woman could sing the same song whether or not she is the theoretical unmarried non-niddah and produce the same spectrum sample when put through a digital audio converter or etched into a recording. (Or the memory of a parrot.)

So, consider the fairly absurd example of my question of the parrot. An African Gray can mimic a voice with amazing precision. It could imitate a woman singing. Is it asur to listen to a parrot that is imitating a forbidden woman singing? Are there any actual opinions one way or the other about such a case?

So is it asur to listen to something that can simply be associated with a forbidden woman? If so, then it should be asur to listen to the parrot and it should be asur to listen to a recording. If not and if it's only asur to hear what is directly coming out of the mouth of a forbidden woman, how could an MP3 player, which itself is certainly not a married niddah woman, be forbidden to listen to? If it's mutar to listen to the parrot and asur to listen to the MP3, what is the distinction if both cases are nothing more than disembodied reproductions of another's voice?

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FYI, many hold that non-erotic songs are fine regardless. – Charles Koppelman Mar 18 at 1:15
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And I think others hold that recordings are fine. – Charles Koppelman Mar 18 at 1:42
this is similar to a question of if a wig looks like real hair, is it a problem – Menachem Mar 18 at 3:59
"En HaYeser Sholet Ela BeMashe Enaw Ro'ot (Sotah 8)" and this Hacham Ovadia Shalit"a source (see Halichot Olam vol. 1 pg. 124) that if you don't personally know the woman singing than recorded music of a woman does not include the Isur of Kol BaIsha Erwa. – Hacham Gabriel Mar 19 at 4:09
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@Daniel Nope, only an unmarried non-niddah woman can one listen to sing. Nowadays that means younger than 11 years old or so because unmarried women no longer use the mikvah. Also as far as I know even a non-Jewish woman is in this category for kol isha. – A L Apr 19 at 18:48
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