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Is the community obligated to support financially those who study Torah all day long? Is one allowed to request such support from the community based on his choice to study full-day and not make a living by an 'ordinary' job?

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zr., welcome to Mi Yodeya, and thanks very much for bringing this important question here! I hope you'll look around and find more here that interests you, perhaps including our 57 other questions about tzibur-community. –  Isaac Moses Feb 13 '13 at 22:01
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Thanks for the warm welcome. –  zr. Feb 13 '13 at 22:03
    
By "Is one allowed to request such support", do you mean "Has one a right to expect such support"? Anyone can request anything, I'd think. (But +1 on the question.) –  msh210 Feb 13 '13 at 23:11
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Are these people studying to serve as "klei kodesh" (teachers, mashgichim, synagogue rabbis etc.) or studying just because? –  Double AA Feb 14 '13 at 4:46

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Rambam is explicit and passionate on this topic (Hilchot Talmud Torah 3:10) . . . NO!!!!:

"Anyone who decides to be engaged in Torah [study] and not to work, and will be supported by Tzedaqa - this person desecrates God's name (Chillel et Hashem), degrades the Torah, extinguishes the light of our faith, brings evil upon himself and forfeits life in Olam haBa (The world to come); since it is forbidden to derive benefit from the words of Torah in this world. The Rabbis said (Avot 4:5): Anyone who derives benefit from the words of Torah in this world, forfeits his life in Olam haBa. They further commanded and said: (Avot 4:5) Do not make them [the words of Torah] a crown to magnify yourself or an axe with which to chop. They further commanded, saying: (Avot 1:10) Love work and despise positions of power (Rabbanut). And: (Avot 2:2) Any Torah which is not accompanied by work will eventually be nullified and will lead to sin. Ultimately, such a person will steal from others."

(Translation from http://www.torah.org/learning/rambam/talmudtorah/tt3.10.html )

Of course, other authorities can disagree with Rambam. But I have yet to see a compelling counter argument. And given the severity of Rambam's case, it should be countered by something particularly compelling.

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See also the Rambam's extensive parallel discussion in his Commentary to the Mishna by the referenced Mishna in Avot here hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37946&st=&pgnum=364. –  Double AA Mar 7 '13 at 17:20

The answer to this question will depend on your hashkafa, so please take my response as an indication of one individual's tradition, with many other possibilities out there.

No. Communal funds are holy, and may only be used to support the community and other holy endeavours. It is appropriate to support only "the cream of the cream of the cream" (a favourite phrase of my Rosh Yeshivah) with communal funds - those men who will become Rabbis, Dayanim, and Roshei Yeshivah, i.e. directly serving the community. For these people it is not just appropriate but necessary to fund them, as an essential way of building the community and its future.

Your average kollelnik I presume to be a superb learner and he is certainly doing a valuable mitzvah by learning all day, but it is not a proper use of charity money to pay for him when he could be supporting himself. Unless the money invested in him will deliver advantage to the community it should go elsewhere.

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Can you bring any sources or tell us what hashkafa your Rosh Yeshivah is part of so we can put this in context? Thanks! –  Monica Cellio Feb 20 '13 at 13:42
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My Rosh Yeshivah was the late Rabbi Azriel Goldfein z"tzl, who got smicha at Telz Yeshivah and who was a talmid muvhak of Rabbi Mordechai Gifter. I have heard a shiur by Rabbi Gifter wherein he declares: "I am not an Orthodox Jew, I am a Torah Jew!", and Rabbi Goldfein held the same. In my experience he opposed the stratification of Judaism (he would have cringed to be called Chareidi or Modern Orthodox) so it is difficult to pigeonhole his hashkafa with a label. –  Michael Sandler Feb 20 '13 at 14:17
    
WADR I don't think this is simply a matter of hashkafah. There are gemaras and halachas to deal with, and while there might be various final psakim, It is a question of halacha not hashkafah. –  Double AA Feb 20 '13 at 20:51
    
@DoubleAA I would be sincerely interested in an elaboration of the halachas and sources involved. There should be more answers to this question. –  Michael Sandler Feb 21 '13 at 6:17

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