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saw this refutation online of Darwin's Random Evolution Theory and cannot see any holes with the logic. Can anyone crack this simple refutation?

Refutation of the Theory of Random Evolution As for the theory of evolution, which says that living things evolved progressively from mud - first organism - bacteria - fish - animals - humans through tiny random mutations which were advantageous and naturally selected; there's a lot to say on this. All currently living life forms appears to be highly related, sharing the same DNA system and cell structure. This would suggest a common first ancestor as the theory suggests (or better yet - one Designer), however, the most obvious flaw with the theory is that the first organism must have had highly sophisticated intelligent design. There is a minimum requirement for even the most primitive possible life form, without which it could not possibly survive.

Minimum Requirements for First Organism

  1. The first organism must have a system of producing and/or sourcing energy along with subsystems of distribution and management of that energy which interact and work together, otherwise it cannot power critical tasks such as reproduction.

  2. It must have a system of reproduction which necessitates pre-existing subsystems of information storage (DNA), information copying, and information reading/processing which interact with each other and work together. This reproductive system is dependent on a power source, so it must be coordinated with the power system. The reproductive system must also copy/rebuild all critical infrastructure such as the power system and the reproduction system along with the "circuitry" and feedback mechanisms between them, otherwise the child organism will be dead..

  3. It must have a growth system, otherwise the organism will reduce itself every time it reproduces and vanish after a few generations. This growth system necessitates subsystems of ingestion of materials from the outside world, processing of those materials, distribution, and absorption of those materials to the proper place, building the right thing at the right place and in the right amount. It must also have an expulsion system for waste materials.

    The growth system must also be coordinated with the reproduction system. Otherwise, if the reproduction trigger happens faster than the growth, it will reduce size faster than it grows in size and vanish after a few generations. The growth system also requires connection to the power infrastructure to perform its tasks.

  4. All the "circuitry", signaling, and feedback infrastructure which allows the different systems and subsystems to coordinate together and work together must be in place before the organism can "come alive". The reproduction system won't work without coordination with the growth and power systems. Likewise, the power system by itself is useless without the growth and reproduction systems and cannot survive. Only when all the "circuitry", etc. is in place and the power is turned on is there hope for the hundreds of interdependent tasks to start working together. Otherwise, it is like turning on a computer which has no interconnections between the power supply, CPU, memory, hard drive, video, operating system, etc - nothing to write home about.

  5. We assume it originated in water since gas is too unstable and solid is too static. If so, the organism must be contained by some kind of membrane otherwise its precious contents will drift away in the water due to natural diffusion or drifting of water due to temperature variations in the water from sunlight, etc. or from heat generated through its own power, or wind, moon, etc. If so, this makes the assembly of such an organism more problematic, since it would need to be closed shut before it can build itself in a stable way. Yet, to build itself it would need to be open for a long time until all systems are built and interconnected.

From the above minimum requirements it is clear that the simplest possible surviving organism is by no means simple. You would need thousands of different proteins/lipids etc., in the right proportions, all intricately folded and actively interacting with each other and with sophisticated organelles. Contemplate this and you will see the necessary complexity of this primitive organism is far more sophisticated than anything modern technology has ever produced. Even the most sophisticated Intel CPU is mere child's play compared with the design of such an organism.

from http://dafyomireview.com/article.php?docid=397#evo

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Perhaps this should be on Skeptics.SE. – b a Jan 20 at 7:40
there are other questions on this site on evolution. also on dinosaurs. Evolution vs. creationism is a hot topic in reconciling judaism with modern science. – R.S. Jan 20 at 8:22
@RaymondSebag better to ask the question on different site. There isn't much here that relates to a Jewish angle on the question. However, so you know, the basic argument is that it's possible to take a bunch of non-living organic matter, stick it in a test tube, shake it up, apply electricity, and generate a living cell. wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides – avi Jan 20 at 9:30
thank you but according to the above link all of these experiments merely replicate DNA or the like. To create a living cell is well beyond our technology. What you are referring to is the sensationlist media who have titles like "humans create a cell in the test tube". But if you read carefully, you'll see that all they did was replicate some molecules like dna which has a very regular structure. or according to the link at dafyomireview, transplant dna from one bacteria to another LIVE bacteria. – R.S. Jan 20 at 9:48
I agree with the decision to close. The expert you want to engage on this is an evolutionary biochemist (or something like that), not a Jewist. Philosophically, I – Isaac Moses Jan 20 at 14:38
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closed as off topic by b a, msh210 Jan 20 at 7:52

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