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What can a person who is staying at a hotel which has only electronic sliding doors that open when one walks near them do to avoid any issue on shabbat?

  • Wait for someone else to enter and "piggyback"?

  • Tell the staff of the issue and have them open whenever they see the shabbat-observant customer without having to ask?

Are any of these viable/permissible solutions? Any other advice?

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I'm going to close as Too Localized per meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/a/314/759 . Consider editing to make it more general and ping me @DoubleAA to reopen. Also, please consider asking a Rabbi (which Mi Yodeya is not) for personal rulings. –  Double AA Jan 4 '13 at 20:21
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Apparently Rav Elyashiv holds one may ask a gentile to enter so he can enter behind him. (Ma’or Hashabbat, vol. 4). –  LuxuryMode Jan 4 '13 at 20:22
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@LuxuryMode, why not write that up as an answer? –  Isaac Moses Jan 4 '13 at 20:24
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...and reopened (although I have half a mind to leave it closed till after Shabbat). LuxuryMode, I still recommend speaking with a Rabbi and not relying solely on what you read here from a bunch of anonymous internet strangers. –  Double AA Jan 4 '13 at 20:24
    
@DoubleAA, I've edited the question to conform with meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/a/314, and you have re-opened it. Thanks. –  Isaac Moses Jan 4 '13 at 20:26
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The problem occurred to me when I was visiting Japan. I went to the manager of the hotel on Friday and explained the issues. He directed me to one of the non-electronic doors which he would leave open over a generous time window when I expected to be coming in and out.

This also worked in another smaller hotel in Japan where we used the staff entrance on Shabbos and ended up the wrong side of the reception desk (!).

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The doors operate on a infrared sensor.

'Technically' by walking in front of them, even 'piggybacking' when the infra hits you, it resets the timer for the doors to close. there really is no avoidance to this, especially if there is a fire alarm on the back door, and the windows are barred.

Since there is no way around it, Ultraorthodox will avoid having reservations at such hotels.

Your options would be to not use it at all, or to do so.

Your responsibility would be to ask YOUR rabbi, as there are different views between rabbinic studies and sects of Judaism, or communities.

Since automatic doors were not invented until late, different opinions will vary.

As I've been taught, you should follow the teachings of your local Rav. If he doesn't know, its his responsibility to talk to higher chain in command. If another Rav contradicts him, then you must still follow your Rav's teaching, as diferent optinions will turn to different outcomes. Since we do not have a Sanhendrin anymore, there is no one specific law for this question

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If it is prohibited, then why do only ultraorthodox care? –  Double AA May 13 '13 at 21:13
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The whole site runs presuming the policy you stated in the second half of your question. However, this is a community where people come to ask for sources and opinions, not halakhic advice. If you'd like to insert a link in your answer to the Why ask a rabbi question, you're welcome to, but it needn't be the focus of your response. –  Charles Koppelman May 14 '13 at 14:44
    
So overall your answer is: maybe and you should ask a Rabbi? –  Double AA May 14 '13 at 16:25
    
The answer is obviously NO, but for life treatning circumstances it is permitted. However, if you by accident booked a room in a hotel which has these sensors, you can ask the mangement to leave the back door open –  Ess Kay Mar 4 at 16:07
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