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While I have no unicode to show my predicament, I'd like to describe it. I know the vowel for i, such as in the English word "bit", is represented by a dot under the consonant. I know the vowel for ee, such as in the English word "sweet", is represented by a dot under the consonant and the symbol for y to the consonant's left. However, the practice website I was using showed a y consonant with a dot under it, followed by the m character, and translated it as "yeem" instead of "yim." They did this several times, so it was no typo. Does that mean if the consonant is y, the second y symbol needed to make the ee sound is unneeded? In that case, how can you tell "yi" from "yee"? Or when paired with the consonant y, will the vowel i always sound like the vowel ee?

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I suspect there was (or should have been) a dagesh in the 'y' consonant. Is this the case? A dagesh represents a hidden doubling of the consonant. – Double AA Oct 3 '12 at 22:25
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You wrote: "I know the vowel for i, such as in the English word "bit", is represented by a dot under the consonant." I think that is where you went wrong. The dot under the consonant is a "chirik" (pronounced "kheereek"). As far as I know, all speakers of Hebrew pronounce it as "ee," though it sometimes is transliterated as "i" (as in *i*ridescent).

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What do you make of this speaker? yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/707980/Rabbi_Jeremy_Wieder/… – Double AA Oct 3 '12 at 22:24
Some pronunciation systems of eastern European extraction - Hungarian for sure, and perhaps certain Polish or Ukrainian dialects as well - pronounce a chirik as a short "i" as in bit. – yoel Oct 3 '12 at 22:40
@yoel But do they differentiate based on if it has a Yud along with it? I think that's what the OP is referring to. – Double AA Oct 3 '12 at 22:46
@DoubleAA yeah, a yud following the chirik lengthens it so it sounds like "ee". – yoel Oct 3 '12 at 23:46

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