Tell me more ×
Mi Yodeya is a question and answer site for those who base their lives on Jewish law and tradition and anyone interested in learning more. It's 100% free, no registration required.
up vote 0 down vote favorite

I know that most lubavitchers won't learn Daf Yomi.

Is there any Sicha (please bring sources) which says if one should or shouldn't learn it?

share|improve this question
3  
You know that they won't, or that they don't? – HodofHod Aug 3 '12 at 6:24
1  
-1, until you bring proof that the initial statement is true. – Adam Mosheh Aug 3 '12 at 15:46
3  
@mochinrechavim I can't say that I know all Lubavitchers, but in all Yeshivas I attended, there was not even a mention of anyone doing Daf Yomi (not bachurim, not Hanhala, not as an "out of seder" limud, there was no signs as to the current daf. It was as if it didn't exist.) My question is whether this is a "sourced" hergesh (The Rebbe said that "we don't do it - like learning Zohar legirsa) or is it just a "chassidishe hergesh [as in it's not our thing - like "Kitzur Yomi" (which I am almost sure that the Rebbe never talked about)])? – Shmuel Brin Aug 3 '12 at 18:51
3  
@AdamMosheh personal experience - see previous comment. – Shmuel Brin Aug 3 '12 at 18:52
1  
@ShmuelBrin Why would bochurim be learning daf yomi? They are not the target audience of this learning program. The short answer, is you will not find a sicha of the Rebbe telling Chassidim not to learn Daf Yomi, you will have one about L'Girsa Zohar, which is a little more obvious of a reason. – mochin rechavim Aug 3 '12 at 18:53
show 8 more comments

6 Answers

up vote 6 down vote

Since Daf Yomi is printed in the weekly Dvar Malchus booklet - which is an official Kehos publication - It's very unlikely that the Rebbe opposed learning it.

share|improve this answer
up vote 5 down vote

While the Rebbe did not openly endorse Daf Yomi, there is no sicha of (because this is the antithesis of) the Rebbe telling Chassidic dafka not to learn Gemara in this way.

The fact that there were a dozen or so high profile Rabbonim representing Chabad at the recent Agudath Israel of America daf yomi siyum, is clear that Lubavitch supports any and all forms of Torah learning:

COLlive.com has learned that Philanthropist R' Sholom Yehuda Rechnitz, a donor and emcee of the celebration, personally invited Rabbi Yehuda Krinsky, the Rebbe's Mazkir and Chairman of Merkos L'inyonei Chincuh, to join.

Rabbi Krinsky, Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky, were seated on the second row on the dais which featured some 500 rabbonim and roshei yeshiva.

Other Chabad dignitaries that were identified by one attendee on stage were 770 Rosh Yeshiva Rabbi Zalman Labkowsky, Dayan Rabbi Shlomo Segal, Chevra Shas shul Rabbi Mottel Gurary, and Congregation Beis Shmuel Rabbi YY Jacobson.

In the large crowd were spotted Rabbi Chaim Miller, author of Kol Menachem publications; Long Island Shliach Rabbi Anshelle Perl who gives a Gemara shiur at Chabad of Mineola; and R' Shlomo Aron Holtzberg who gives a Daf Yomi shiur at Congregation Anash at 770 Montgomery Street.

—COLlive.com

I recalled reading somewhere that at least one member of the Crown Heights Beis Din was also.

share|improve this answer
up vote 4 down vote

I heard (no source) that when asked once the Rebbe said Daf Yomi is not a "davar Hashaveh lcol nefesh" (something that would apply equally to everyone) unlike the shiurim in Chumash, Tehilim, Tanya and Rambam.

However, it should also be mentioned that Lubavtich has its own (older) tradition from the Alter Rebbe (subsequently printed in Igros Kodesh of Tanya) about dividing and partnering everyone in learning Gemara, where everyone takes a different misechta and learns it through the year (this division was initially done on Yud Tes Kisleiv, subsequently moved to Chof Dalet Tamuz, and since moved back to Yud Tes Kisleiv), where everyone in the group becomes a partner and with their learning their part, they become a partner in the whole Shas every year.

Promoting Daf Yomi would be promoting a different system where one person would have difficulty doing both and the Rebbe very much promoted the maintenance and strengthening of Chabad customs among Chabad Chassidim.

Of course the Siyum Hashas was a wonderful thing, and although I avoid trying to project what someone would have said as it tends to just be wishful thinking on the part of the speaker, it is quite imaginable that the Rebbe's reaction to the Siyum would have been to praise it and point that it is a lesson to strengthen and encourage the custom of dividing Shas according to the Alter Rebbe's system as well.

share|improve this answer
up vote 2 down vote

I question the basis for saying that most Lubavichers don't learn Daf Yomi. If, as indicated in the comments, this is based on your years in Yeshivah, then you've answered your own question: Daf Yomi is not part of any mainstream Yeshivah curriculum. It is, rather, a tool to encourage widespread Talmud Torah among the public not (or no longer) in Yeshivah.

You can most certainly find Daf Yomi classes taught in Chabad houses all around the world.

share|improve this answer
up vote 2 down vote

There are Lubavitchers who do Daf Yomi, but I assume your question is why it isn't emphasized to learn Daf Yomi in Chabad. I believe the answer to your question is that Chabad has its own daily studies to do, like chumash, tehillim, Tanya, rambam. When a Lubavitcher does all those and has extra time, then he goes on to Daf Yomi, but he starts off with his own minhag which is the primary focus

share|improve this answer
Welcome to Mi Yodeya and thanks for the idea. I recommend you register your account, which will give you access to more of the site's features — and I hope you stick around! (You may also wish to choose a more meaningful username than "user2582".) – msh210♦ Apr 3 at 6:59
up vote -2 down vote

As a Toras Emes alumnus I can say that we don't participate in it mainly because it was invented by Aguda leaders who were not in favor of the central importance of Lubavitch in the Jewish world.

share|improve this answer
1  
What's a bei unz? – Seth J Aug 9 '12 at 11:47
Mendel, welcome to Mi Yodeya and thanks for your perspective. Your answer would be more valuable if you would indicate in it how you know that that was the reason for not learning daf yomi, and an explanation of what "Tors Emes" is. Also, I've edited out the Yiddish: many readers of this site will not understand it, and it was unnecessary. You might also wish to register your account, which will give you access to more of the site's features. – msh210♦ Aug 9 '12 at 15:59
This is baseless. While it might be true, it has no conncetion to question. What yeshiva system of any Torah Institution uses Daf Yomi as a curriculum to teach? – mochin rechavim Aug 9 '12 at 16:09
@mochinrechavim I don't understand your comment. It is not baseless, but sourced, and it does answer the question. And if you find his source puzzling consider that he might be reporting what he learned there and not how he learned there. – Double AA♦ Aug 9 '12 at 23:27
1  
@mochinrechavim No it is not baseless; it is sourced. He said exactly where he learned it. At Toras Emes (I assume that means something to you). Your disagreeing with his conclusion does not make it sourceless. – Double AA♦ Aug 10 '12 at 3:00
show 2 more comments

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.