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I know that most lubavitchers won't learn Daf Yomi.

Is there any Sicha (please bring sources) which says if one should or shouldn't learn it?

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You know that they won't, or that they don't? –  HodofHod Aug 3 '12 at 6:24
-1, until you bring proof that the initial statement is true. –  Adam Mosheh Aug 3 '12 at 15:46
You personally know MOST Lubavitchers, and what they learn? The Rebbe never endorsed Daf Yomi but he wasnt against it, and you certainly will not find a sicha from the Rebbe saying a person should not learn Torah. –  user1292 Aug 3 '12 at 17:08
@mochinrechavim I can't say that I know all Lubavitchers, but in all Yeshivas I attended, there was not even a mention of anyone doing Daf Yomi (not bachurim, not Hanhala, not as an "out of seder" limud, there was no signs as to the current daf. It was as if it didn't exist.) My question is whether this is a "sourced" hergesh (The Rebbe said that "we don't do it - like learning Zohar legirsa) or is it just a "chassidishe hergesh [as in it's not our thing - like "Kitzur Yomi" (which I am almost sure that the Rebbe never talked about)])? –  Shmuel Brin Aug 3 '12 at 18:51
@AdamMosheh personal experience - see previous comment. –  Shmuel Brin Aug 3 '12 at 18:52

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I heard (no source) that when asked once the Rebbe said Daf Yomi is not a "davar Hashaveh lcol nefesh" (something that would apply equally to everyone) unlike the shiurim in Chumash, Tehilim, Tanya and Rambam.

However, it should also be mentioned that Lubavtich has its own (older) tradition from the Alter Rebbe (subsequently printed in Igros Kodesh of Tanya) about dividing and partnering everyone in learning Gemara, where everyone takes a different misechta and learns it through the year (this division was initially done on Yud Tes Kisleiv, subsequently moved to Chof Dalet Tamuz, and since moved back to Yud Tes Kisleiv), where everyone in the group becomes a partner and with their learning their part, they become a partner in the whole Shas every year.

Promoting Daf Yomi would be promoting a different system where one person would have difficulty doing both and the Rebbe very much promoted the maintenance and strengthening of Chabad customs among Chabad Chassidim.

Of course the Siyum Hashas was a wonderful thing, and although I avoid trying to project what someone would have said as it tends to just be wishful thinking on the part of the speaker, it is quite imaginable that the Rebbe's reaction to the Siyum would have been to praise it and point that it is a lesson to strengthen and encourage the custom of dividing Shas according to the Alter Rebbe's system as well.

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While the Rebbe did not openly endorse Daf Yomi, there is no sicha of (because this is the antithesis of) the Rebbe telling Chassidic dafka not to learn Gemara in this way.

The fact that there were a dozen or so high profile Rabbonim representing Chabad at the recent Agudath Israel of America daf yomi siyum, is clear that Lubavitch supports any and all forms of Torah learning:

COLlive.com has learned that Philanthropist R' Sholom Yehuda Rechnitz, a donor and emcee of the celebration, personally invited Rabbi Yehuda Krinsky, the Rebbe's Mazkir and Chairman of Merkos L'inyonei Chincuh, to join.

Rabbi Krinsky, Rabbi Moshe Bogomilsky, were seated on the second row on the dais which featured some 500 rabbonim and roshei yeshiva.

Other Chabad dignitaries that were identified by one attendee on stage were 770 Rosh Yeshiva Rabbi Zalman Labkowsky, Dayan Rabbi Shlomo Segal, Chevra Shas shul Rabbi Mottel Gurary, and Congregation Beis Shmuel Rabbi YY Jacobson.

In the large crowd were spotted Rabbi Chaim Miller, author of Kol Menachem publications; Long Island Shliach Rabbi Anshelle Perl who gives a Gemara shiur at Chabad of Mineola; and R' Shlomo Aron Holtzberg who gives a Daf Yomi shiur at Congregation Anash at 770 Montgomery Street.


I recalled reading somewhere that at least one member of the Crown Heights Beis Din was also.

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Since Daf Yomi is printed in the weekly Dvar Malchus booklet - It's very unlikely that the Rebbe opposed learning it.

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Is Dvar Malchus (not the 5752 sichas) printed by Kehos? –  Shmuel Brin Nov 3 '13 at 17:50
@ShmuelBrin Good point. I've always taken it for-granted that it was was from Kehos (probably because of the fact that the front cover uses the same cover as the original dvar malchus - with the Kehos logo) - but now that you mention it - I'm not sure. I just looked at a booklet now, and I can't make out who the publisher is. I think I'll edit the Kehos bit out of the answer in the mean time though. Thanks. –  Danield Nov 3 '13 at 21:48
Its not printed by Kehos, rather by a separate print house dvarmalchus.org it only uses the kehos logo because it copies the cover page formats of the Sichos of the Nun years which were called "Dvar Malchus" in fact there are seforim out called Dvar Malchus which collect all those sichos. –  Efraim Nov 19 '13 at 3:40

There are Lubavitchers who do Daf Yomi, but I assume your question is why it isn't emphasized to learn Daf Yomi in Chabad. I believe the answer to your question is that Chabad has its own daily studies to do, like chumash, tehillim, Tanya, rambam. When a Lubavitcher does all those and has extra time, then he goes on to Daf Yomi, but he starts off with his own minhag which is the primary focus

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I question the basis for saying that most Lubavichers don't learn Daf Yomi. If, as indicated in the comments, this is based on your years in Yeshivah, then you've answered your own question: Daf Yomi is not part of any mainstream Yeshivah curriculum. It is, rather, a tool to encourage widespread Talmud Torah among the public not (or no longer) in Yeshivah.

You can most certainly find Daf Yomi classes taught in Chabad houses all around the world.

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As a Toras Emes alumnus I can say that we don't participate in it mainly because it was invented by Aguda leaders who were not in favor of the central importance of Lubavitch in the Jewish world.

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What's a bei unz? –  Seth J Aug 9 '12 at 11:47
This is baseless. While it might be true, it has no conncetion to question. What yeshiva system of any Torah Institution uses Daf Yomi as a curriculum to teach? –  user1292 Aug 9 '12 at 16:09
@mochinrechavim I don't understand your comment. It is not baseless, but sourced, and it does answer the question. And if you find his source puzzling consider that he might be reporting what he learned there and not how he learned there. –  Double AA Aug 9 '12 at 23:27
@DoubleAA Where is the source for this statement? It's baseless because not supporting Daf Yomi Torah Learning is not a way Lubavitch would show their feelings for a specific group. The fact that doezens of high profile Lubavitchers were present including quite a few on the dayus, AND there are many Chabad Shuls that have a daily Daf Yomi shuir, including my shul, makes it even more baseless. –  user1292 Aug 10 '12 at 1:40
@mochinrechavim No it is not baseless; it is sourced. He said exactly where he learned it. At Toras Emes (I assume that means something to you). Your disagreeing with his conclusion does not make it sourceless. –  Double AA Aug 10 '12 at 3:00

When The Rebbe said (mi pi shemua) that daf yomi is not Davar Hashave lkol nefesh" it was before the appearance of the artschroll Gemara
Now daf yomi is printed in the Davar malchus ( official publication) because it became hadavar Hashave lkol nefesh ( even more than the Rambam) It's easier to get more Tora understanding now from daf yomi in artschroll than in any Rambam in English

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Dvar Malchus isn't official. –  Shmuel Brin Nov 3 '13 at 17:41
@ShmuelBrin, and it isn't printed with the artscroll translation either. –  Yishai Nov 3 '13 at 17:42
dvarmalchus.org/Download/… here is a link of the dvar malchus it has "KEHOT" in the cover which is the publishing division of Chabad Lubavitch if there is a political issue in if it is official or not, I dunno –  sholy Nov 3 '13 at 20:45
The cover was originally used for the sichos published in 5751-5752 called "Dvar Malchus" (which is why the date on the bottom says 5752). I don't know what connection the new publication has to do with those sichos. –  Shmuel Brin Nov 3 '13 at 20:47

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