Mi Yodeya is a question and answer site for those who base their lives on Jewish law and tradition and anyone interested in learning more. Join them; it only takes a minute:

Sign up
Here's how it works:
  1. Anybody can ask a question
  2. Anybody can answer
  3. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top

Using an Israeli sidur (prayer book) nusach Ashk'naz recently, I saw that it had "Sim shalom" for mincha of Shabas (including Shabas yom tov, but not weekday yom tov), even though it had "Shalom rav" for mincha usually.

Why would Shabas differ from other days in this regard?

share|improve this question
Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/10426 – msh210 Apr 9 '12 at 8:19
up vote 4 down vote accepted

According to Sefer HaKushyos and other sources the reason is because the Torah is read by Shabbos Mincha. Although, this answer still requires further clarification. See https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1NJHmIXg4QJZEQ2Rk04MkJUN3loRHN6Z1RWX3pQQQ

Although regular Nusach Ashkenaz doesn't do this, the Vilna Gaon was of the opinion to do so which is why the custom is to do this in Israel.

share|improve this answer
An expert on nuschaos (whose name escapes me now) answered me on this question that there are various alternative versions (like sim sholom & sholom rov and retzei & vesairoaiv (the one we say before duchaning on Yom Tov)) which are basically interchangeable. Changing between them, he said, is not a major concern! – Avrohom Yitzchok Apr 9 '12 at 20:59

Your Answer


By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.