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Among not yet frum people the traiditional blessing of haMakom is not used but rather people wish each other ' a long life or chayim aruchim' whilst this term is reserved for avelimg. Is there any issur in wishing 'long life' to other family members of the deceased but not the close members sitting shiva? Does one have to distinguish between what he wishes an avel and someone just close

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closed as not a real question by Isaac Moses Feb 9 '12 at 19:22

It's difficult to tell what is being asked here. This question is ambiguous, vague, incomplete, overly broad, or rhetorical and cannot be reasonably answered in its current form. For help clarifying this question so that it can be reopened, visit the help center.If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

Is your question assuming one does wish long life to the ones sitting shiv'a? (If so, you may wish to edit that into your question, and the basis for that assumption.) – msh210 Feb 8 '12 at 17:36
Is this in the Bais HaAveil? Is this a greeting normally reserved for who? Question needs some polishing, I am not sure what you are asking? – Gershon Gold Feb 8 '12 at 17:51
possibly related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/12690/759 – Double AA Feb 8 '12 at 17:55
This question still requires a great deal of cleanup to be sufficiently comprehensible. Does "whilst this term is reserved for avelim" refer to "not yet frum" practice" or normative practice"? Either way, do you have a source? Please specify clearly what exactly you suspect might be forbidden and why. – Isaac Moses Feb 9 '12 at 19:26


HaRav Tzvi Pesach Frank Zatzal says that you may say Chaim Aruchim to the mourners and it is not considered like a greeting.

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I'm not sure this entirely answers the question. – Double AA Feb 8 '12 at 18:58
I am not sure what the question is as you can see in my comments to the question. If Moshe Yitzhak elaborates and explains what he is looking for then I may edit my answer. – Gershon Gold Feb 8 '12 at 19:01
I have ammended the question thanks – Moshe Yitzhak Feb 9 '12 at 19:09
Gershon, if a question is not clear, I recommend commenting, downvoting, and/or voting to close rather than filling in your own assumptions and answering the question as-is. – Isaac Moses Feb 9 '12 at 19:36

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