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An Edomite cannot marry a Jew for three generations.

Nowadays (since the time of Sancheiriv, who mixed all nations together), this law no longer applies as we no longer know who is an Edomite. However, there were people who had a tradition of their lineage. For example, Haman was a known Amaleiki,. If someone had a tradition that they were one of the "original Edomites" or "original Moabites", would he be prohibited to marry a Jewess?

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Someone asked a lot of questions today :) – Shmuel Brin Feb 5 '12 at 6:57
Haman was not known as Amaleiki, we just give him that label. Is there something that makes you think that we trust the traditions of non-Jews? – avi Feb 5 '12 at 7:50
@avi, he was known as "Agagi" - a descendant of Agag. One presumes that he was quite proud of that fact. – Alex Feb 5 '12 at 17:16
@Alex Actually, he is only called agagi by Jews. 4 times in the narrator and once by Esther in 8:5. It's very possible that only the Jews knew or cared about this. – Double AA Feb 5 '12 at 17:19
@Alex there is also a town in Persia with the name Agag. No question that it's our understanding the personality, but I'm not sure you can use him to prove Amelikite persons, just like you can't use the Nazis. I mean, we hear nothing about his parents or siblings. – avi Feb 5 '12 at 18:40

He would be allowed to marry in. It's an explicit Mishna in Yadayim 4:4

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1. A summary would be helpful, 2. It's not explicit in the Mishna, what is explicit is that there are two opinions on the matter :) – avi Feb 5 '12 at 16:20
@avi 1) there isn't much to summarize. since they are mixed up, we don't know who is who. 2) what actually is explicit is that the mishna rules according to the opinion that it is permitted. – Double AA Feb 5 '12 at 16:42
@DoubleAA, the mishna implies a case where the ger came from that land. Would it make a difference if he had a mesorah that predated Sancheriv? – YDK Feb 5 '12 at 18:25
It could be that the Amoni didn't have a tradition (he may have just lived in the place called Amon). – Shmuel Brin Feb 5 '12 at 18:44
You got me: this could be a national origin and not a tradition. But 1) I'm not sure those were so different back then; and 2) I doubt you will find a better source. – Double AA Feb 20 '12 at 0:27

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