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A friend once told me that if one's minhag is to daven with Hanetz (i.e., starting the Amida prayer at sunrise), and if there's no Hanetz minyan nearby, you should still daven Hanetz, even without a minyan.

Does anyone have sources for this? Is this halacha?

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I believe the proper Hebrew term is "Hanetz" (the hey being part of the word not the definite article). –  Double AA Dec 20 '11 at 21:07
    
Netz isn't "sunrise" and Hanetz isn't "the sunrise?" –  Naftuli Tzvi Kay Dec 20 '11 at 21:16
    
Nope. It's the same structure as הנצו הרימונים from Songs 7:13 See also here dovbear.blogspot.com/2006/06/hanetz-not-netz.html –  Double AA Dec 20 '11 at 21:20
    
This is not a matter of minhag, it is a matter of halacha. It is a machlokes halacha lemaaseh whether or not one should hold that netz is sof zman k''s or 3 "hours" into the morning. I personally don't know anyone who does this because their father does it. The people who I know do it, do it because of what the talmud and poskim bring down regarding this practice and that they believe it is more halakhically sound than the three hour opinion. –  Adam Mosheh Feb 12 '12 at 17:46
    
Hanetz = Sunrise. Sunrise, by definition, can't happen 3 hours into the day :) Sof Zman Krias Shema happens 3 hours after hanetz. I think we're talking about different things here. –  Naftuli Tzvi Kay Feb 13 '12 at 18:02

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Here are additional sources that you can review on the topic that address your question:

1) שו"ת הרמב"ם סימן קפ

2) חשוקי חמד בבא מציעא דף פג עמוד ב

3) שו"ת יביע אומר חלק א - או"ח סימן ד

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This is the psak of Rabbi Yisrael Meir Kagan in the third Biur Halacha on Siman 58.

Of course when davening alone, it is still advisable to go to a minyan later to hear all the dvarim shebekdusha that you missed, like kaddish, kedusha, barchu, and keriyat hatorah.

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Awesome, thanks, that helps a lot :) –  Naftuli Tzvi Kay Dec 20 '11 at 18:18
    
@double aa I think you should add that about Keriat HaTora on Monday and Thursday one should actually after davening shemone esre go to hear the Torah. –  Hacham Gabriel Dec 20 '11 at 18:23
    
@HachamGabriel I'm not sure there is an obligation to go to keriat Hatorah, as it is a chovat tzibbur and you are not in the tzibbur. –  Double AA May 20 '12 at 3:28

I believe Ish Masliah (vol. 1 16:2) says if you usually daven with netz and it happens that you don't have a minyan to go to, you are supposed to daven with netz alone. I would also think to say that if there is Keriat HaTorah, you go to the later minyan after davening with netz alone.

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