Should a man say Shehecheyanu when lighting Yom Tov candles?

Question

In a situation when a man will both be lighting the Yom Tov candles and making Kiddush, when should he make Shehecheyanu?

Do we say only when lighting candles, since that is when the women say it when they light candles (and perhaps because that is the earliest possible opportunity)?

Do we say that they should only say it when making Kiddush, since that is when it would normally be said?

Or, are there certain times when men would say the blessing both times, such as when the Shehecheyanu in Kiddush also applies to another Mitzvah of the day. For example, would the man say Shehechyanu both when lighting the candles on the second day of Rosh Hashana, and during Kiddush when we are supposed to have in mind a new fruit or garment when saying the Shehecheyanu (Orach Chaim 600:2)?

And, assuming the man is supposed to say it twice, what does he do if already said it when he lit the candles and he doesn't have a new fruit or garment? (Normally Shulchan Aruch says to say it anyway, but in this case he has already said it when he lit the candles)

Take Sukkot as an example. The Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 641:1) tells us that the Shehecheyanu we say on the first night of Sukkot is also being said for the Sukkah. If for some reason you said Shehecheyanu on the first night of Sukkot outside the Sukkah you repeat it the first time you sit in the Sukkah. If so, it would stand to reason that if the man said it when he lit candles he would still repeat it when making Kiddush in the Sukkah. In such a situation, should the man skip it when he lights candles and only say it in Kiddush, or should he say it twice?

Answer 1

Say it only during kiddush. The women too should only say it during kiddush. Why would one assume the two would be any different? They are both obligated in kiddush and both obligated to have the lights lit. The gemara in sukkah (4th perek) clearly says that the shechiyanu is said with the kos of kiddush. I see no reason to distinguish between genders.

EDIT: Due to some down votes, I am adding some sources to this discussion. The fact is that the mishna brura (263:23) and rav moshe feinstein (igros OC 4:101) both point out that the practice has no basis but one does not need to protest against women who do so. Moreover, rav ovadiah yosef (yechavveh daat 3:34) actually recommends stopping the practice because it is preferable to say the shehechiyanu on kiddush. The only reason noone has fully condemned the practice is because everyone agrees that the bracha is not levatala. The gemara referenced above clearly permits one to say shehechiyanu while standing in the shuk and this is indeed what most men do on yom kippur! But it is clear that the ideal time is to say it on the kos.

I don't see why anyone would continue to teach their daughters this minhag. But all the more so why a man who happens to be lighting candles one yom tov would give up the shehechiyanu on kiddush for candles when there is no reason for him to do so!

Answer 2

The only reason we deliberately have new fruit or clothes is because we're saying it anyway on kidush or lighting: if you're (for whatever reason) not saying it on kidush or lighting, there's no reason to have new fruit or clothes. (Of course, if you do have new fruit or clothes, then you say shehecheyanu, same as on any weekday.)

Moreover, saying it at kidush or lighting is saying it for the day: so you only say it one of those two times, not both. But I don't know which one.

(As noted (in a comment on this answer and then in the revised question), Sukos would seem to be an exception because the b'racha is said for the suka as well as for the yom tov (Rama 641), so if a man said it on lighting in his home then he'd repeat it in the suka. Again, I don't know when he should say it. And there may be other, similar exceptions, though I can't think of any.)