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I know there are seven specific commandments to noachides but recently I was talking to a Rabbi who told me actually noachides have 420 commandments and the Jewish nation has 613. Can anyone point me to where I can find these 420 commandments he spoke of? Was he just making something up or is there somewhere I can read these? I am aware they are in the Torah but I would like to find them ordered if there is already a list someone is aware of.

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  • Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/16239/472 Mar 19, 2014 at 1:15
  • @MonicaCellio If that means as in the other post we can not know until the future he must be making them up?
    – Yossi
    Mar 19, 2014 at 1:20
  • Hi Yosi. Welcome to Mi Yodeya and thank you for bringing your question here. I hope you enjoy the site (looks like you've been looking around already). Mar 19, 2014 at 1:20
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    I linked the question mainly because it posits a number greater than 7 (though a much smaller number than the rabbi you talked with says). I don't know if the leads there help at all, but I find cross-linking related questions to be useful. Mar 19, 2014 at 1:22
  • I am following the related links on that thread as well as Wiki links. They are great, I may need to make this as answered.
    – Yossi
    Mar 19, 2014 at 1:25

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I remember a PHD thesis (I think by Rabbi Lichtenstein, but I will have to find it) in which he stated that the 7 are actually categories, each of which consists of a number of different mitzvos (as far as making a link with the Torah goes). For example, there is the category of theft which can be broken down it individual mitzvos.

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  • It would be an interesting exercise to take Samuel ben Hophni's list of 30 and try and correlate how each of the 30 can be considered as inside one of the seven categories. For many of these 30, the correlation to the 7 categories is obvious, but I am not sure if it will work out for every one. For example #13 (No castration) and #17 (Not to crossbreed animals) do not easily fit in one of the seven basic Noachide commandments.
    – Mike
    Mar 19, 2014 at 2:25
  • 420 is divisible by 7, fwiw.
    – msh210
    Mar 19, 2014 at 2:49
  • Which gives us about 60 per...
    – Yossi
    Mar 19, 2014 at 3:08
  • Not a PhD thesis, but Rabbi Lichtenstein wrote a book which you've described here. I don't think it's on the internet, but I did find a summary of it here: en.wikinoah.org/index.php?title=Aaron_Lichtenstein#Conclusions Mar 19, 2014 at 9:15
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    Rabbi Lichtenstein's count adds up to 66, though, according to that website's summary Mar 19, 2014 at 9:21

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